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silverfoxesclub-digest
Sunday, October 15 2000
Volume 01 : Number 014

In this issue:

-Sweet taste
-OOPS! Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse
-BOOM!
-Gay Chaplain Finds Future Doubtful
-Fw: Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse
-Standing up for what we believe
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:15:31 GMT
From: "Dennis O"

Subject: Sweet taste

A joke to share... > >

>This actually happened at Harvard University in October >of this year. In a biology class, the professor was >discussing the high glucose levels found in semen. >

>A young female freshman raised her hand and asked, "If >I understand, you're saying there is a lot of glucose, >as in sugar, in male semen?" >

>"That's correct," responded the professor, going on to >add statistical info. >

>Raising her hand again, the girl asked, "Then why >doesn't it taste sweet?" >

>After a stunned silence, the whole class burst out >laughing. The poor girl's face turned bright red, and >as she realized exactly what she had inadvertently >said, or rather implied, she picked up her books >without a word and walked out of class...and never >returned. However, as she was going out the door, the >professor's reply was classic.... Totally straight- >faced he answered her question, "It doesn't taste sweet because the taste-buds for sweetness are on the tip of your tongue and not the back of your throat."
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:37:09 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: OOPS! Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse

Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse

I forgot to give you the URL for the cards:
http://www.pisgahweb.net/maturemen/cards/
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:02:53 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: BOOM!

The list server crashed early Saturday morning. I am sending this posting without a picture to see if it gets through because a couple of earlier ones are stuck in there. I sent a sample of the new Halloween cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse, and it is still at the server (I think). You can access the cards at www.benboxer.com (the Clubhouse) near the head of the page where I have placed an announcement and a direct link. They can also be accessed from the regular button link in the left-hand column on the same page. Tally ho!
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:52:19 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Gay Chaplain Finds Future Doubtful

Ben Boxer notes: There may be something inexpressibly sad about the situation below, but it is also a tragicomedy of Shakespearean proportions. The chaplain of the Arizona state legislature suddenly decides to live up to his Christian ideals of honesty and love and publicly admits that he is gay -- in good faith that it will be accepted and understood by his loving Christian flock whose spiritual forebears were thrown to the lions for THEIR faith in pagan days. Their reaction? He "has ruined his credibility..." says one former supporter, "...and should resign." Please note that the chaplain has chaplained the legislature for FREE! Then, more Christians for whom he chairs a charitable organization, at a measly salary of $30,000 per year, demand that he give up that chair -- because he, the man who has selflessly served them (and the legislature) for years is gay!

Now, here comes Rick Tafel, fearless leader of the oxymoronic Log Cabin "gay Republicans" -- who have just run a TV ad slamming the Democrats and praising the lofty pro-gay ideals of George W. Bush (who gets his jollies mocking his victims on Texas' Death Row) -- with the lofty comment that the chaplain's action will be "effective at breaking down stereotypes." Thank you, Ricky!

The drama continues.

Will the chaplain also be forced to resign from his unpaid positiion with the Arizona lege? Or will he starve to death first, having been cast out of the charity by uncharitable Christians and being now without a salary at all -- because the hambone up and came out on National Coming Out Day?

Or will the heretofore unseen Christian God, whose name is said to be Love, suddenly descend from Heaven in a T-shirt emblazoned "I'm Not Gay, But My Boyfriend Is" and make everybody do penance by kissing the chaplain's...OOPS!

That's all, folks! I don't want to give away THE END!

Headline:
Gay Chaplain Finds Future Doubtful

By Scott Thomsen
(Associated Press. 10/14/00)

Text:
PHOENIX (AP) - When the Arizona Legislature's chaplain announced this week that he is gay, he cast doubt on his ministry's future. He also added a new voice to gay rights issues that may echo in lawmakers' debates when they return to the capitol.

The Rev. Charles Coppinger has served as chaplain to the House since 1996 and the Senate since 1997. He was appointed, and reappointed, by conservative Republicans who have been some of his strongest supporters. Some of that support was based on a shared religious view that homosexuality was contrary to the teachings of the Bible.

Now that he has acknowledged his sexual orientation, it is unclear whether Coppinger will remain chaplain.

``He betrayed all of us who have been past supporters,'' Sen. Scott Bundgaard, R-Glendale, said. ``Charley has ruined his credibility as a teacher on religious issues and as such I believe he's no longer qualified to be the chaplain at the Legislature. He should resign.''

The chaplain is appointed by the Senate president and the speaker of the House. The position is unpaid, but Coppinger draws a $30,000 salary plus a housing stipend from a private organization that supports the ministry.

That group's board of directors asked Coppinger to resign Friday night.

Coppinger agreed to step down from his position with Foundations for Success but said he wants to remain chaplain, unless legislative leaders ask him to leave.

``It's their prerogative to have whomever they choose,'' he said.

Coppinger said he has received many phone calls, e-mails and letters expressing support. He described the revelation about his sexuality as a matter of honesty and integrity.

While he was ordained as a Baptist minister and has been a member of a conservative Church of Christ congregation, Coppinger said he now believes the consistent message of the Bible is that God loves all people, including gays.

Sen. Darden Hamilton, R-Glendale, a former Foundations for Success board member, said he worries Coppinger has injected politics into a nonpolitical, non-denominational ministry.

``I feel undercut by that announcement, but I still love Charley,'' he said. ``I'm not a judgmental Christian.''

Coppinger's announcement could affect how lawmakers talk about issues related to sexual orientation, such as who is covered by domestic violence laws and insurance benefits for unmarried domestic partners.

But the chaplain may be effective at breaking down stereotypes because of his conservative Christian background, said Rick Tafel, executive director of the gay and lesbian organization Log Cabin Republicans.

``It's always more potent when it comes from someone with a similar view,'' he said.
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:27:12 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Fw: Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse

Here we are in the middle of the Friday the 13th weekend so it's time to aim for Halloween.

I have just placed 10 SEXY Halloween virtual greeting cards at the Clubhouse for you to send FREE to friends at this joyous witch bitch season! Witch bitch are you? OOPS! That never comes out right, but as long as you're planning to cum on Halloween, who cares witch? er...which?

I plan to ride my partner's broomstick on the Hallowed Evening because he's my trick and I'm his treat. Does that make me a witch bitch?

Halloween Cards at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse:
http://www.pisgahweb.net/maturemen/cards/
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 02:45:46 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Standing up for what we believe

I am submitting the below posting from BenBoxerList with the poster's permission. Please do as it says if you can. It makes it simple to stand up quietly and be counted without risk to yourself in our gay army marching forward to the equality and freedom which are supposed to be our constitutionally supported birthright.

Ben Boxer
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To: "Ben Boxer"
Cc: "0Dlist"
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 2:10 PM

Subject: Re: Friday the 13th! Shiver! Shake!

I received this from the HRC and thought I would pass it on to the list. HRC=Human Rights Campaign"

URGENT ACTION NEEDED TO SAVE HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION

October 12 marked the second anniversary of Matthew Shepard's death. Since then, countless other individuals have been maimed and murdered by hate violence across this nation. Yet on October 5th, at the insistence of the Republican leadership in Congress, the conference committee on the Department of Defense Authorization bill eliminated the hate crimes legislation from the final bill. By this callous action, the leadership in Congress turned their backs on hate crime victims and their families and acted against the wishes of the House, the Senate and an overwhelming majority of the American people.

As President Clinton and Congressional leaders negotiate legislation that must be passed before Congress adjourns, there is a chance to get the hate crimes legislation restored. We are asking that our HRC Action Network members send faxes to support President Clinton and urge Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott and Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert to act. They must hear loud and clear that the American people want an expanded hate crimes law enacted this year.

To send these faxes (at no cost to you), point your internet browser to www.hrc.org or click on the link below. Then click on "Take Action" to log on to HRC's Online Action Center where you will find these three fax alerts. You can automatically send them (be sure to send all three!) and find more information about hate crimes legislation.

With so little time left before Congress adjourns, please act today and forward this email to your family and friends. Thank-you for taking this important action in the fight for equality.
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