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silverfoxesclub-digest SIBJECT LINES: Subject: My kind of diet BREAKFAST 2 oz. Carrot Juice 1 Slice Whole Wheat Toast 8 oz. Skim Milk LUNCH 4 oz. Lean Broiled Chicken Breast 1 Cup Steamed Carrots 1 Oreo Cookie Herb Tea (no sugar) MID- AFTERNOON SNACK Rest of the Package of Oreos 1 Quart of Rocky Road Ice Cream 1 Jar of Hot Fudge DINNER 2 Loaves Garlic Bread Large Pepperoni and Mushroom Pizza Large Pitcher of Beer 2 Milky Way Candy bars Entire Frozen Cheesecake ( eaten directly from the freezer ) DIET TIPS !. If no one sees you eat it-- it has no calories. 2. If you drink a diet soda with a candy bar they cancel each other out. 3. When eating with someone else, calories don't count if you both eat the same amount. 4. Food used for medicinal purposes never count such as: Hot Chocolate, Brandy, Toast and Sara Lee Cheese Cake. 5. If you fatten everyone else around you -- then you look thinner. 6. Movie-related foods don't count because they are simply part of one's entire entertainment experience and not a part of one's personal fuel (such as Milk Duds, Popcorn with Butter, Junior Mints, and Red Licorice.) 7. Cookie pieces contain no calories. The process of breakage causes calorie leakage. 8. Carrot cake is an unlimited vegetable. Subject: New Ben Boxer story at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse
Greetings, all!
Since my last story used lots of bandwidth in its one-column format,
if you would like to read my NEW story at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse,
just go to the URL below this line: That's where you will find "Bath House," a few sample lines from which
appear below:
"At first, he moved so gently for so long that I could almost have
gone to sleep again, but then his strokes quickened, and his hands tightened
around my shoulders, and hot, gasping breaths replaced his tender kisses
behind my ear. He began driving at full speed, as if determined to win
the Grand Prix.
"He swung to the left, then to the right, then drove hard up the middle
lane. The friction of his cock hammering into the depths of my ass generated
enough heat to make a bonfire of my bowels, numbing my sensitive tissues
to the blows.
"Crossing the finish line, he sprayed his semen with an ear-splitting
grunt. I swore I felt a million sperm spew into my guts, rioting to
swim upstream.
"It was over. The lust knitting us together had come unraveled at
last." Subject: Re: My kind of diet
Ben, darling, I loved your diet. I got scared at first, when it sounded
so healthy, but when you talked about the pint of rockyroad ice cream,
I felt better, and the pizza is right up my alley! Are there any guys
on this list who like big guys? I seem to be expanding with age! When
Harley guides me, he has to judge for two now!
Hugs, Subject: You, too, can be a Girl Scout!
(Ben Boxer says: The Boy Scouts problem of discriminating against
gays is taking off into the stratosphere, and I find it an interesting
subject to follow for the fascinating controversy it is generating in
the most unlikely places. All across the U.S.A., small and large communities
are getting into the act.
I read a long account today of the issue, and found a couple of excerpts
which may be of interest to some of you. I don't expect it to interest
all of you, but what does? My job is to pick a variety of subjects for
your consideration and then hope that maybe one or two items will matter
to you.
On a list with a diverse membership like ours, diversity has to be
our middle name. I know that some of you don't like that. You want this
to be a dating and fuck list only. Some of you hate the foxhunter pix,
and others are bored by the silverfoxes pix, etc. To you I say, find
another list where you can squabble and flame, because it ain't gonna
happen here. I have always said about my lists that I would prefer to
have 10 members who like to span the whole range of the gay/bisexual
experience than 1,000 who are just here to find somebody to suck their
dicks.
Many of you write to me in gratitude for presenting gay-related information
that you do not have time or opportunity to research for yourselves.
Everyone is invited to contribute to our forum on almost any issue of
your choice.
One of the most welcome contributions you can make is to submit a
posting from time to time telling us about yourself, who you are, and
what you like sexually or otherwise. That way we can get to know each
other. You can also post a Member Profile at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse
from the list's Home Page http://www.boxersfoxes.com/mmclublist/index.html
===================== The present controversy was set off June 28, after the Supreme Court
ruled 5-4 that the Boy Scouts of America is a private organization and
therefore free to exclude gay men from serving as troop leaders. (The
Scouts also ban gay members.)
The decision overturned a New Jersey Supreme Court ruling that applied
the state's anti-discrimination law and required a New Jersey Scout
troop to readmit a longtime member and assistant scout leader, James
Dale, who had been thrown out of the Scouts after he told associates
he is gay.
The court focused narrowly on the issue of a private group's right
under the First Amendment to set its own membership rules.
So where has the above led?
Many say that the Scouts simply are out of step with modern viewpoints.
Homosexuality is more widely accepted in American society today than
it was when the Scouts began litigating the issue 20 years ago.
In last week's vice-presidential debate, the two candidates expressed
support for gay civil rights in a way that has not been heard in presidential
debates to date. Democrat Joe Lieberman expressed the need for tolerance,
and Republican Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is gay, forthrightly
agreed.
The fallout from the Supreme Court decision comes as the Scouts also
face competition from the increasing variety of activities available
to youths. For much of its history, the Scouts were the only youth organization
available in many communities.
Now, an array of other groups offer athletic, religious, scholastic
and artistic activities. Many of the other groups, including the Girls
Scouts of America, the YMCA, 4-H clubs, Boys & Girls Clubs of America
and Jewish community groups, don't exclude gays.
Indeed, in Fort Lauderdale, at an emotional four-hour debate before
the city commission voted to end an annual grant to the Scouts, the
director of the Florida Girl Scouts stepped to the microphone and declared:
"Even men can be Girl Scouts."
But outside the courtroom, the scouting groups' stance that they can
exclude gays because they are private organizations has undermined their
ability to receive public money, sponsorships or other support from
taxpayer-supported schools and governments that bar discrimination based
on sexual orientation.
"The Boy Scouts cannot have it both ways," says Linda Hill, executive
director of the San Diego ACLU, which took the city to court to try
to force it to revoke its 50-year lease with the Scouts at the city's
Balboa Park. "They convinced the court that they are a private group
with a constitutionally protected right to discriminate. So now they
cannot turn around and ask taxpayers for a public subsidy in the form
of a preferential lease."
Lynn Barnes-Wallace, a lesbian and a plaintiff in the suit, says the
issue prompted a difficult conversation with her 7-year-old son who
wanted to join the Cub Scouts. She told him that she and her partner
believed that they wouldn't be welcome to participate.
"We told him that if he joined, he would have to swear an oath that
denies his parents' rights," she says. The boy wound up not joining
the Scouts.
Shields says that while Barnes-Wallace wouldn't have been allowed
to be a Scout leader, she could have participated in scouting activities
with her son.
(Ben Boxer interjects: "They are so condescending toward us, as if
we should be satisfied with crumbs and not expect the cake because they
are our betters, and we are second class!")
The topic has been just as polarizing in many communities. Civic leaders
across the nation say they feel strongly about discrimination yet support
the Scouts, which are beloved for their good works, especially their
programs for disadvantaged youths.
(Ben Boxer comments: "One of the statements most often heard from
the discriminatory side is that cutting off the Boy Scouts from public
funding will deprive many of exposure to the 'high moral standards'
of the Scouts. I find that a worthy deprivation, to grow up without
being taught by example to despise and disrespect an entire class of
fellow citizens with whom you will have to live and work as an adult
in our multi-cultural society.) Subject: Dr. Laura apologizes???!!!
Headline: Text: One ad in the magazine, targeted to gays and lesbians in show business,
comes from embattled TV advice-giver Dr. Laura Schlessinger, who takes
advantage of this week.s Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) celebration to
write an open letter to the gay community.
Schlessinger writes, .While I express my opinions from the perspective
of an Orthodox Jew and a staunch defender of the traditional family
in talking about gays and lesbians, some of my words were poorly chosen.
Many people perceive them as hate speech. This fact has been personally
and professionally devastating to me as well as to many others. Ugly
words have been relentlessly repeated and distorted for far too long..
On the Day of Atonement, Jews are commanded to seek forgiveness from
people we have hurt. I deeply regret the hurt this situation has caused
the gay and lesbian community..
The Dr. Laura program has been the target of bad reviews and advertiser
boycotts, partially due to protest by gay rights activists who objected
to the physiologist.s use of the phrase .biological error. in referring
to gay people and to her comments regarding the percentage of gay men
who are pedophiles. Subject: Today is National Coming Out Day
That's right. Today, Wednesday, October 11, is National Coming Out
Day. But don't do it unless it's right for YOU!!!! Subject: Introducing myself again
List friends, I'm Bob Feinstein. Ben has been incredibly supportive
and kind to me since I've joined the list. I have found that I have
not made any list contacts, and so want to try again.
I would like to correspond by email, and later phone, with guys who
would be interested in a possible friendship, with perhaps a sexual
component later. I am blind from birth, have blond hair, and my eyes
would be blue if they were normal looking. I am a heavy guy, standing
5 feet 9, and weighing about 320 pounds. I am 50 years old.
I have found it difficult to penetrate the gay community, especially
in big groups. There is an article I wrote on the website bentvoices.org
which talks about a fiasco at a convention. I changed some of the names,
but those who are in the know will have an idea what I'm talking about.
Back to my request: I want to meet guys who are interested in exchanging
ideas with a possibility of meeting. Because of my blindness, I think
one of the most important characteristics I need in a new friend is
somewhat of a nurturing temperament, and someone who does not mind helping,
as I of course do need help being guided, etc.
I believe that I have a lot to offer in the areas of compassion, conversation,
and a real feeling for the importance of touch.
I want to thank Ben for his kindness towards me, and his having put
many of his stories on tape for me.
I will send two pictures: one is probably a bit better than the other.
When responding to me at harlynn@panix.com please do not send pictures,
as they are of no use to me, and to be honest, I care more about a person's
kindness and inner qualities, and of course, sweet smelling cologne!
Hugs, Subject: One more thing
Relocating for me is definitely a possibility, as I'm getting tired
of the weather and the life here in New York.
Bob and Harley End of silverfoxesclub-digest V1 #11
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