silverfoxesclub-digest
Wednesday, November 29 2000
Volume 01 : Number 060

In this issue:

-New Clubhouse domain
-Delete key (+ response)
-The clash of innocence with ruthless power

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:09:41 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: New Clubhouse domain

Ben Boxer's Silverfoxes Clubhouse is now located at www.benboxer.com

Temporarily, you can still reach it at the old address www.maturemen.org

It would be wise, however, to bookmark it at the silverfoxes address as the old one will eventually be discarded.

Thanks for your patience when the Clubhouse "disappeared" for a few hours yesterday (Mon., Nov. 28, 2000) and thanks also to those who expressed their concern in e-mails which I appreciated but which I have been unable to answer individually.

The Clubhouse started out at this "new" URL when it was first founded, but a series of circumstances led to its loss. I am happy to have it back, as I have always felt that the Silverfoxes Clubhouse belongs in a Silverfoxes Domain.

Those of you on the BenBoxerList and the BenBoxerPixList should note that on January 1, 2001, your membership will be transferred to the Silverfoxes Club E-mail List when the other lists close down on that date.

You can access information about the new list and its components from the Main Lobby of the Silverfoxes Clubhouse at www.benboxer.com/index2.html where Santa is rocking for the holiday season.

Look also for the link to the free virtual greeting cards under Santa's boots. There are plenty of cards to choose from, and one of them might say just the right thing. I will be adding more soon, both for the December holidays and for other occasions.

Ben Boxer
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:48:43 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Delete key

A direct reminder that the delete key may be your best friend on this list. There are some younger men who object to my including pictures of foxhunters along with the silverfoxes. They want only grandpas and get vocal when the youngers appear.

My advice to you is to get off the list. All adult ages of men are welcome here, and they represent many tastes in different age groups.

If you can't live with that, you simply don't belong here, and if you complain about it too much, I won't let you stay.

I have seen the damage that kind of attitude can do on a list, so use your delete key, please, because here the damage will only happen to you.

Also, it is idiotic on an e-mail list to write to other members, including me, to ask them to stop sending you this or that. That's what an e-mail list is about, the sharing of e-mails in a group. Such complaints reveal only your naiveté or your bad manners.

Get over it, or go bye-bye.

Regards from
Ben Boxer

P.S. Apologies to the adults on this list, who don't need such a lecture.
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:01:52 EST
From: Parnassos@AOL.com

Subject: Re: Delete key

"P.S. Apologies to the adults on this list, who don't need such a lecture."

Ben,

Smooch. It's been a rough day, and I needed a smile. Thanks! I, for one, like the young foxhunters........though that pic of Mr. Kurosawa turned me into one

Steve in Detroit
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:03:30 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: The clash of innocence with ruthless power

Ben Boxer comments on the below: In my collegiate days, there were no visibly gay people on campus. I can't help but be inspired by the courage of young gay/bisexual people today who have stepped out of the closet and assumed the hideous label "faggot" with dignity and fierce determination to overcome all attempts to push them aside and relegate them to irrelevancy in university life. There they stand, arms akimbo, facing academia head-on with the challenge to accept them for what they are.

Academia's response, as seen below, shows them up for what THEY are: Christian bigots with a fascist agenda instead of enlightened teachers encouraging knowledge. In their condemnation of homosexuality, they would do well to pay heed to Hannah in Tennessee Williams' "The Night of the Iguana" when she echoed the famous line of the ancient Roman playwright Plautus, "Nothing human disgusts me unless it's unkind, violent."

Headline:
College puts GSA on probation

(The Advocate, 11/28/00)

Text:
St. Joseph's College in Standish, Maine, has placed the schools gay-straight alliance on probation and is considering banning the group from campus, the Portland Press Herald reports. College president David House said the group had scheduled lectures without proper approval. It wasnt clear to me and to others whether the lectures were in keeping with the mission of the college, House said. St. Josephs is a Catholic college. The lectures, titled Writing Diversity and Acting Diversity, were held at the the home of Prof. Reg Hannaford, who protested Houses actions. I have to question the integrity of any institution that professes to be an institution of higher learning that does not introduce its students to the basic diversity, the wonderful variety of people that exist in the world, Hannaford, who is heterosexual, said. House said he is considering banning the gay-straight alliance altogether. I and the college have been hoodwinked, and if I had known that this was how they were going to operate, I would not have approved the organization in the first placeeven on a probationary basis, House told the paper. There are just too many questions right now about the organization, its purpose, its goals, and whether or not there are even enough members for it to qualify as an official student organization. The concerns are clearly that it may or may not be in keeping with the mission of the college. Dan Neuville, who founded the alliance and is president of the colleges student senate, said, The fact remains, there is a gay population here at St. Joes, and were not going away.

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