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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Tuesday, May 29 2001
Volume 01 : Number 253

In this issue:

-Humor: Beer
-travel to Europe
-Re: Some famous gay people
-two other authors, one composer
-travel
-RE: Some famous gay people
-Great gays
-Quote of the Day
-Adding singer Johnnie Ray to the gay list
-Re: two other authors, one composer
-Re: Quote of the Day

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From: RDAtomicPunk@cs.com
Subject: Humor: Beer
Due to increasing products liability litigation, American beer brewers have accepted the FDA s suggestion that the following warning labels be placed immediately on all beer containers:

1. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra. 2. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not.
3. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.
4. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them.
5. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.
6. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to telephone them at four in the morning.
7. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with other members of the opposite sex without spitting.

8. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you have mystical Kung Fu powers, resulting in you getting your ass kicked.
9. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to roll over in the morning and see something really scary.
10. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is the leading cause of inexplicable rug burns on the forehead.
11. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.
12. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe you are invisible.
13. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you.
14. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause a disturbance in the time-space continuum, whereby gaps of time may seem to literally disappear.

Happy Memorial Day,
Joe aka AtomicPunk.
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From: David Geary dgeary@swissonline.ch
Subject: Re: Some famous gay people

There are some important names missing on the list of musicians, above all three 20th century composers. Sir Benjamen Britten, who also had a lifelong relationship with the tenor Peter Pears, for whom he wrote major roles in almost all of his operas. Francois Poulenc, a great french composer, who had a longtime relationship with the baritone Pierre Bernac. Finally a unique case: Samuel Barber and Giancarlo Menotti, two extremely successful composers, who lived with each other. Barber died many years ago, but Menotti, at 90, is still going strong. I've always been sorry that no one in an interview ever asked him about this, and what effect an intimate relationship had, if any, on their own work as composers.

David

Note from Ben Boxer: You're right on all counts (Britten is already on the list), and we can add a fourth composer, Camille Saint-Sakns, and writers Julien Green and Jean Genet and artist/filmmaker Jean Cocteau. We should compile our own list. (That one is off the Web.) It would include Martial, the Roman poet, and the Roman writer Petronius, et al. I will do some extra research, and others can contribute.
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From: James.Young.jaime@spiritone.com
Subject: two other authors, one composer

You missed two of my favortis writers, one very famous, and one known only to gays, 1. Edward E. Tanner III, who wrote under the pseudonyms of Patrick Dennis and Virginia Rowans. 2. Paul Monette, who wrote Becoming a Man. 3. The former conductor/composer/ Ned Rorem.
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From: "David Cantu" dcantu@intersatx.net
Subject: RE: Some famous gay people

We forgot:
Rob Halford (ex singer for the heavy metal band Judas Priest)
Sir John Gielgud
Sir Alec Guiness (bisexual)
Pete Williams (CNN Correspondent)
Rosie O'Donnell (just came out)
John Mahoney
Dusty Springfield
Dennis Farina (actor)
I forgot his name, but he used to play keyboards for the band "Faith No More"

just to name a few more.

David
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From: Doug Whitfield dwhit@island.net
Subject: Great gays

Alan Turing, one of the 20th century's great mathematicians and a key figure in deciding the outcome of WW2 because of his work in cryptography.
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Quote of the Day

"I was meant to be a composer and will be I'm sure...Don't ask me to go play football--please." ---Gian Carlo Menotti, future composer, in a note written to his mother at the age of nine.

Adding composer Gian Carlo Menotti to our growing list of gay notables, we must also speak of Menotti's relationship with fellow composer Samuel Barber, who was already on our original list, it dawned on me that all I have ever heard about their relationship has been innuendo and sly remarks among music's cognoscenti.

In another life, I was a music critic at a major international daily newspaper and thus had access to many stars of the music world. On the rare occasions when the names of Menotti and Barber came up, there was always a tacit understanding among those present that they were a "couple," but in those more pristine times forty years ago, nothing more than assumptions would have been made in "polite" society, which was generally what classical musicians were.

Of course, they had their moments. Once, in Boston, I was present when a certain great female opera star of the time made a recording. She struck a particularly high note and held it forever. When she came down off her high, the whole crew (including me) burst into applause. As no members of the "public" were present, she could afford to be herself, so she blurted out, "Boy, you gotta have a tight asshole to sing a note like that one!" It broke us up.

I had studied opera myself with a renowned Metropolitan Opera coach in Manhattan and remember her telling me in her thick Viennese accent to "schtand on you tippy-toes und mit tight buttocks SQUEEZE dot note outta de top of you head und TINK (think) HIGH!"

That's about as rough as it got in my music world. One of my best friends in earlier days was the kid brother of Leonard Bernstein. We were in the Army together. My perception of him was that he was VERY straight. Although I had heard rumors about his brother Lennie being gay, I would not have dared asked him about it. That's the way it was then.

That is NOT the way it is now; therefore, I surfed through cyberspace this afternoon on my Copernic system which employs almost all the search engines available and finds virtually everything if you come up the right keywords, which is not always easy. I was looking for everything I could find on Menotti and Barber just to see how much successful prying into their private lives has been done.

The answer: zilch!

We seem to know as much them as we knew forty years ago. There is light at the end of the tunnel, however, in the sense that when both of them have gone on to a higher reward, those who know may share what they know more liberally than they have up to now.

Menotti is 90. Barber passed at age 71 in 1981. He was born in 1910, Menotti in 1911, so they were almost the same age. I will share with you the indicators of their relationship which I found on the Web today. That they were gay lovers for 53 years seems likely. That the living Menotti still loves the dead Barber also seems likely from what I read. Menotti seems to have an "adopted" son named Chip. I don't know, beyond the words, what that really means.

Menotti was 17 when they met, Barber 18. It was probably love at first sight because they were both beauties.

Here is the stuff I found on various sites. Perhaps some among you can add to the information therein.

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Menotti studied for three years at the Milan Conservatory, then in 1928 he and his mother came to America so that he could attend the newly opened Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia. A letter from Arturo Toscanini, a family friend, to the composition teacher, Rosario Scalero, made it possible for him to enroll as a student there. Thanks to the discipline of that tyrannical taskmaster, Menotti was thoroughly and rigorously trained in all the techniques of composition, particularly counterpoint. The same onerous discipline and training were experienced by another young composer, Samuel Barber, who became his close companion and lifelong friend.

The friendship of Barber and Menotti is legendary. They were the exact opposite -- in temperament, background, personality, aesthetics, attitudes, and musical style. Barber, an affluent, small-town American, aristocratic, disciplined Anglo-Saxon to the core, acerbically witty, solitary, reserved, balanced, stable; Menotti, the volatile European, amusing, dramatic, fascinated by the fantastic and marvelous, outlandish, bizarre, delightfully eccentric. Yet the uncontrolled Latin and the controlled Anglo-Saxon were a necessary catalyst for each other. Their symbiotic relationship greatly influenced the course of American music.

The Barber family welcomed Menotti as a son and had an enormous calming effect on this tempestuous young man. The Menotti we know today -- his somewhat corporate image and his mastery of the English language -- is greatly a product of his living with this cultivated Pennsylvania family during his maturing years. Menotti in turn introduced Barber to the manners and milieu of Europe, and Barber became in many respects a Europeanized American.

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Menotti has written librettos for only two other composers, one for Lukas Foss, a miniature opera Introductions and Goodbyes, and two for Samuel Barber. Barber's Hand of Bridge is replete with private jokes and catty dialogue.

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Barber born Westchester PA 1910 died 1981 Menotti born Italy 1911 still alive

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At Curtis (Music Institute), Barber met Gian Carlo Menotti with whom he would form a lifelong personal and professional relationship.

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After serving in the Army Air Corps (which commissioned him to write his Second Symphony) during World War II he (Barber) returned to live in the USA, near Mt. Kisco where he shared a house with another great American composer Gian Carlo Menotti.

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He taught briefly at the Curtis Institute, but soon withdrew, sharing a house with his former fellow student Menotti.

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...and formed a life-long friendship with Giancarlo Menotti, whom he met in 1928 in Philadelphia.

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(Note from Ben Boxer: Here is the clincher:) To the right of Barber's gravestone is a vacant plot, reserved by Barber for his life partner, composer Gian Carlo Menotti (1911- ). Their lifelong relationship began when they met as teenagers at the Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia. Menotti, most famous for his opera, "Amahl and the Night Visitors," was also a librettist for Barber's opera, "Vanessa." Menotti is also the founder and major force behind the annual Spoleto Music Festival in South Carolina. Buried in Oaklands Cemetery, Westchester, Pennsylvania, USA. Cause of Death: Cancer.
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Adding singer Johnnie Ray to the gay list

Adding singer Johnnie Ray to the gay list: Remember him wailing the song, "Cry"? He changed the term "crooner" to "weeper"! He was called "the Nabob of Sob," "the Prince of Wails," "The Atomic Ray," "the Guy with the Rubber Face and Squirt Gun Eyes." He was partially deaf and wore a hearing aid. He said singing LOUD was the only way he could hear himself! He was born in Oregon in 1927, died in 1990 at 63.

During the summer of 1940 in Dallas, Oregon, Johnnie was at a Boy Scout Jamboree with troops from all over the Pacific Northwest. Johnnie was a 13 year-old scout envied by a lot of the boys for his musical talents. During a blanket toss Johnnie was hurled up into the air, about ten or twelve feet (according to childhood scout friend Jim Low), the boys holding the blanket lost their grip or let go and Johnnie slammed hard onto the ground, ramming a dry, stiff straw into his left ear. Johnnie immediately lost 50% of his hearing, no first aid was given, and 13 year-old Johnnie didn't mention it to his parents, thinking it would pass. But it didn't. (Makes you wonder if he was being persecuted by his fellow scouts for being gay. Kids are cruel, and some of us were put through the paces at that age.)

Johnnie Ray was not part Blackfoot Indian. Press agents circulated a story that Johnnie's childhood Indian name was "Little White Cloud" and was asked in an interview at the height of his popularity what Indian blood he had. Johnnie looked at his shoes and came up with "Blackfoot", it stuck forever.

Although he faded from popularity in the United States in the late 50's, he continued to be popular in the UK. The power and clarity in his voice insured him a legion of fans. He toured Australia many times, and had more performances there than any other American performer.

In later years Johnnie Ray had liver problems and died of liver failure in February of 1990.
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From: "eric k. wolven" wyrdwulf@catskill.net
Subject: Re: two other authors, one composer

Of course, there's Phillip Glass (composer), Ludwig Wittengenstein (philosopher)...

Eric
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From: David Geary dgeary@swissonline.ch
Subject: Re: Quote of the Day

When I was studying at the opera school in Toronto in the early sixties, it was well known. A soprano studyine there remarked one day that she had been reading a biography of Menotti,and "I kept hoping he'd meet some nice young girl, but then he met Samuel Barber!" At a composition class, someone asked the professor what he thought of Barber/Menotti's opera "Vanessa" and he replied "Two queers writing about a pregnant woman!"

Menotti's adopted son is called Frances, son of italian parents who are still alive, but agreed to Menotti adopting him officially to have someone to pass on his name and money to. I ahve no idea if there a sexual relationship between them or not. A couple of years ago, if talked about it in an italian TV programme which I unfortunately didn't see.

David Geary
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