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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Wednesday, March 14 2001
Volume 01 : Number 171/2

In this issue:

-Brushing your teeth with a comb
-Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake. (7)
-Humor: Questions of life
-Dick Cheney (8)
-Mary Cheney's Dick (7)

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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Brushing your teeth with a comb

Thank goodness for gay men! We are the only ones who really appreciate the awesome beauty of the penis. No woman ever really does. When pressed, they speak of it as ugly. Most straight men are sickened by the sight of another man's dong. For them, the cunt is their garden of delights (as the Persian poets used to say, speaking also of breasts swinging like jars). No thanks! Not for me! Show me a rampant, red-tipped phallus rising above swinging, pendulous balls, and you will make me a happy man! I like them in all shapes, all sizes.

One of the most powerful sprays of semen that ever coursed up my nose sprang from a beautiful Greek sailor on a ship in the Mediterranean Sea after I had spent a full five minutes nuzzling around his pubes looking for the sweet thing. Where IS the little bugger, I kept asking myself even as I lapped and chewed my way through the thicket in his groin, occasionally picking hair from my teeth. (Reminds me of my old fraternity song, "Gee, but it's great, after eatin' your date, brushin' your teeth with a comb!" sung to the tune of "Walkin' My Baby Back Home.")

I knew it had to be there somewhere, if I were to judge from his writhing and moans. The guy was in ecstasy, but I sure couldn't find enough of it to wrap my lips around. I really didn't care. His beauty, his passion, his hands pawing at my head and shoulders, his arching pelvis, the Greek words he murmured that I couldn't understand, were more than enough for me.

Then, ZAP! Up rose this tiny mushroom head out of the bush and zap zap zap shot me up the nose, great wads of cum splashing across my face, his fingers clawing at my hair, his breath erupting in animal grunts. He smiled at me when it ran empty and got up and bent over and quietly gave me his ass. His cum still dripping from my face, I slipped in with a dash of spit and with the fresh memory of the powerful gush from his loins driving me on like a fury, I pounded him against the wall and shot a load up his Hershey canal that might even have put his to shame.

Afterward, we dressed, and he hugged me close before going out the door. I groped him a bit, but still couldn't feel that poor little thing. I knew for sure, however, that my Greek really did have something down there, and, boy, was it hot!

A great Irish satirist and poet wrote a stupendous satire of the social and political mores of his time, the early 18th-century. His name was Jonathan Swift, and I am speaking of his masterpiece, "Gulliver's Travels," about a shipwreck survivor cast ashore in the Land of Lilliput where he awoke on the beach to find himself tied down by an army of very tiny men. The book was a bestseller in its day and is even now the subject of movies and cartoons. Although it is usually considered a children's classic, "Gulliver's Travels" is quite bawdy and entertaining for adults in its unexpurgated version.

I found a drawing today from that period, obviously an erotic satire on the giant Gulliver had become as compared with his "Lilliputian" captors. It's a lovely cartoon of his dick and balls beached like a whale and under scrutiny by very tiny and undoubtedly admiring citizens of the Kingdom of the Small. See attached. Long live the Gay Gene!
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From: ypvs@freeuk.com
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

Fredrick Mazyck wrote: "...who is this guy....."

Helmut Kohl is the ex - Chancellor of Germany (1982 - 1998). He is a BIG, chubby silver fox (71 on the 3rd April), stands at 6' 4" tall and weighs an estimated 350lbs.

Many foxhunters lust after him as he is held in high esteem by those that like their silver foxes BIG. He has a deep, slow and commanding voice and and an absolutely gorgeous face with deep brown eyes.

I suppose that unless you feel the same way as his admirers then you won't understand what the attraction is all about. But believe me he has many foxhunter fans out there who would like nothing better than a night of passion with him. I am his number one fan, though I suspect Thomas from Germany may well be as obsessed with him as I am!

Hugs,
Chas
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From: "Fredrick Mazyck" rayge17@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

Thanks for the info. And I take it there are no nudes of him available...Thus all of the "not fake" comments. I'm starting to see why so many are bewitched by him. He's a cutie. I wonder though I he could stand in the same clase as Big Boston Bill and Ben "Championship" Boxer? I'd like to judge that contest.

Fred
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From: RogueKC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

Dear Chas,
What about those of us who are completely into older fellows, but like them fit? Is that just an impossibility, in that we simply have no choice but to gain a hundred pounds once we hit fifty?

Your information is spectacular and informed, and I greatly appreciate it. I don't mean to offend, I'm just attracted to a mature man who is reasonably fit. Do I just not fit in?

Thank you for your wisdom and assistance.

Terry in KC
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From: George of Boston bostbill@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake. Dear Terry,
It matters not a whit that your ideal is different from someone else's ideal.

Stick to your own taste and never apologize for it.

George of Boston (Boston Bill)
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From: "Edison Silver" ed1947ison@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

Thank God! Now I don't have to feel guilty about not gaining weight...there just may be a hunter out there for me! HEHEHE...
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From: ypvs@freeuk.com
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

RogueKC@AOL.COM wrote: "What about those of us who are completely into older fellows, but like them fit?"

Terry, it is very much a case of different horses for different courses.

For every hunter that likes his silver fox on the large side, there will be another who likes him to be slim. Just like the way some like guys to be hairy and others like them smooth. Some like both!

There is no right nor wrong. It is purely down to personal taste, and my tastes are for the big, chubby types. Mind you every now and then even I find a not so big guy attractive, the handsome Boston Bill very much falls into this category. I just wish the session talked about between him and the gorgeous Ben Boxer would materialise! And boy would I like to be between those two ;-)))))))))

What matters is what is right for you. If you like your guys to be slim, then great. Who has the right to disagree with that? There are enough problems with us being accepted by the gay world for liking guys much older without adding the fact that they should be fat/ slim/ smooth/ hairy/ bald/ grey/ white haired etc.

Live and let live, and love your fellow man whatever his size :-)

Hugs, Chas
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From: ypvs@freeuk.com
Subject: Re: Helmut Kohl semi-nude, no fake.

Many hunters out there like their silver foxes big ;-) And I'm one of them!

Hugs, Chas
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From: "luvhog" luvhog@ameritech.net
Subject: Humor: Questions of life

Some of the great questions of life:

If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?

If a deaf person swears in sign language, does his mother wash his hands with soap?

If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

Why can't they use the material from the 'little black box' for the entire plane?

Why do you need a driver's license to buy beer if you can't drink and drive?

Is there another word for synonym? Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?"

When sign makers go on strike, is anything written on their signs?

Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food?

If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?

Would a fly without wings be called a walk?

Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them?

If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked?

Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?

Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?

If the police arrest a mime, do they tell him he has the right to remain silent?

Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines?

How do they get the deer to cross at that yellow road sign?

Why do they sterilize the needles for lethal injections?

Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?

Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?

What was the best thing before sliced bread?

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From: "David C." El_Cu_Cuy2000@excite.com
Subject: Dick Cheney

How can anybody not want to go to bed with this hunk?????

David
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From: "Buzter" buzter@aros.net
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

Being a native of Wyoming, and knowing Dick Cheney personally, I can assure you that if you have any political conscience whatsoever, that you would not want to get into bed with this man in any way, shape or form.

The man is a snake and a hypocrite when it comes to gay rights. Same thing with Dave Thomas of Wendy's. Cute on the outside but with a black heart. And speaking of hearts, any activity with Dick Cheney in bed would probably be his last act as Vice-President or ever for that matter.

We had a little discussion about physical attraction on this list last week and it basically centered on physical appearance and how if one changes their appearance, does it change the way we feel about them. I prefer to look at the whole person for attractiveness. The inside counts as much if not more than the physical shell we live within. After all, if you found John Wayne Gacy , Jeffrey Daumer or even Adolf Hitler, to be a hottie would you still want to climb in the sack with them, let alone be in the same room?

Hugs to the list,
Buzter
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From: Saucy888@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

Hmmm... I have to admit to being so shallow as to just not being able to hop into bed with someone I like, admire, respect, etc. unless I am physically attracted to them. I'm sure my limp dick would be seen as an insult.

No....despite his chubbiness and my attraction to chubby men, John Wayne Gacy would not be on my dance card. However.................I cannot quite put Dick Cheney on the same level as Gacy and Dahmer. The VP is not quite a murdering cannibal. He seems to have developed a fan club among this group and allowing folks the fantasy of an escapade with him is harmless. Many men mellow and age gracefully, developing open minds as they do. I think that's why I love older men so much (ok, ok...I know, they put on a few pounds, too!). Maybe Cheney can be saved.

Saus
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From: "x x" eeeeeddd69@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

From: Saucy888@AOL.COM The VP is not quite a murdering cannibal....

He's damn close; But(butt) i'd still top him then he could Eat me.
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From: "James Leahy" burghnative@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

Hey now! He is a cousin of mine. Although a distant one, well hell! lets show him how much fun an air tight can be he is sexy.

Jim
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From: Torah41@cs.com
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

Not knowing Cheney personally I can't comment about him as a person but I still think he is very hot.I wanted to say that I appreciate Silverfoxes site very much.Being stuck out here in Kentucky it gives me an opportunity to see a lot of older sexy masculine men.Those seem to be in short supply where I am at.
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From: "Jack McGee" jackmc@rocketmail.com
Subject: Re: Dick Cheney

My chief objection to Cheney is his attitude about business as usual with no attention to the health of the environment which does include people. He, like his boy, is a possession of big business.
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Subject: Mary Cheney's Dick

From: SarasotaBear@AOL.COM

It was my understanding that Cheneys daughter was a Lesbian. Am I wrong?
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From: "Vic" vicnd@csicable.net

WAS? I thought she still is! LOL (sorry, guys. It just struck a funny chord with me. Am I forgiven?)
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From: RogueKC@AOL.COM

That seems to be the case, and she is apparently quite "Out".
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From: "boigy" boigy@wt.net

Dear SarasotaBear,
No, you are not wrong about Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. From what I gather, she lives in Colorado, and didn't not interfere with her fathers nomination for VP.

Love Rising in Texas,
Jim
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From: SarasotaBear@AOL.COM

Hello Again Gentlemen,
Now that you all have affirmed Cheney's daughter is a lesbian. Do you still believe Cheney can be so anti-gay. It does not appear that he has disowned his own daughter. That was my purpose in writing my initial post to the list.

Regards, SRQ
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From: tomwpit tomw.pit@verizon.net

Yes, I believe that Cheney does not like gays and does not appreciate the lifestyle of his daughter. Come-on the man cannot even smile without doing it sideways ... this is one tense man!!!! ****

From: "boigy" boigy@wt.net
Subject: Re: Cheney

Dear SarasotaBear,
Yes, I can believe that he is anti-gay, even with a gay daughter. My mother had a gay son, but she hated his "queer" lover, and "queers" in general. She loved me, but not my lifestyle.

Love Rising in Texas, Jim
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net

Apropos the Dick Cheney as sex symbol thread, why not enjoy him as a sex partner in fantasy if he turns you on? That is as close to him as you will ever get anyway, so what the hell does it matter if somebody else thinks he's a jerk? Everybody is a jerk to somebody who to others may be a hero.

Telling other people whom to love and whom to hate in their fantasy is not why we are here on the list. Some of you still jack off to Herman the German, and that beautiful guy is fucking DEAD! It's your own business whom you cherish in your fantasy in your head. Do you know that there are men out there who actually fantasize about WOMEN? How's THAT for Quirk City???

Yes, Dick Cheney's daughter Mary is a lesbian. She has a life partner, and both women sat with Dick and his wife Lynne on the platform during the Bush Inauguration. She is also admired by the Bush family. Her parents Dick and Lynne were extremely close to the gay spokesperson for Papa Bush during Desert Storm, and both were highly upset and vocal when he was outed by vicious members of the press.

Mary Cheney's partner is accepted and loved by the Cheney family as another daughter. Dick Cheney's wife Lynne wrote a novel about a lesbian relationship several years ago and has recently stated in public, as has Dick Cheney, that everybody has the right to a partner of his or her choice although both husband and wife are against same-sex marriage per se.

The details of Mary Cheney’s life are part of the public record: Cheney, 32, worked at Coors as gay liaison for the company until May 2000, when she quit to pursue an MBA. She and her partner, Heather Poe, live in the Denver suburbs, in a house they own together. Jim McNulty, who cofounded Aspen Gay and Lesbian Community Fund in Aspen, Colo., recalls that Cheney introduced Poe as her “life partner” and that Cheney was “quite” out about her sexuality and her relationship. “During the course of [an evening spent with McNulty and his partner] they kissed and hugged in public,” he says,“Which is as it should be.”

Individuals who met her through her work for Coors laud her “professional” demeanor. It was a position that requires “awareness and sensitivity to the community,” says Bob Witeck, whose public relations firm Cheney hired to work with Coors. Cheney, he says, had both. She did extensive research and outreach within the gay and lesbian world, traveling with Mr. Leather 1999, Bruce Chopnik, around the country in an effort to bolster Coors’s image.

While many gays and lesbians do not remember—or never even knew about—the fierce battles played out in the past over the involvement of some members of the Coors family in right-wing causes, a residual bitterness still lingers for others. In her job Mary Cheney was responsible for reassuring people that the past was indeed past and that the company was now gay-friendly, with nondiscrimination protections for employees and domestic-partner benefits. In some ways it is the same reassurance she seems to be offering silently about the Republican Party.

All those who even peripherally know her and her father note their unusually close relationship. “They would go on vacation—just the two of them,” says Witeck. “I thought that was incredibly great. It’s rare for any adult, let alone an openly lesbian daughter, and her father [to be so close].” The two have traveled together to Russia and South America and enjoy hunting and fly-fishing together. And Mary Cheney quickly hit the campaign trail with her father, serving as an aide.

While he lacks the fire-breathing demeanor of many conservative Republicans in Washington today, Dick Cheney certainly compiled as conservative a record as could be imagined on gay and AIDS issues. As a congressman from Wyoming from 1979 to 1989, Cheney voted against the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1988, a bill to provide for the collection of data on violent crimes based on race, religion, ethnicity, or sexuality, and supported an amendment that added antigay rhetoric to the bill. He voted against the AIDS Federal Policy Act of 1988, which would have funded HIV/AIDS testing and counseling (a bill that won the votes of several ultraconservatives, including Tom DeLay and Dick Armey). That same year Cheney voted to cut funding for HIV/AIDS research. Throughout his years in Congress and later as Defense secretary under George Bush père, Cheney supported the ban on gays in the military.

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