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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Tuesday, March 13 2001
Volume 01 : Number 170

In this issue:

-Quite a feat
-Humor: Just a laugh
-Humor: Just for fun (2)
-The Greeks had a word for it: "Lysistrata" (3)
-56K Modems V92 versus V90 (6)

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From: "luvhog" luvhog@ameritech.net
Subject: Quite a feat

Many thanks to all for the intelligent discourses lately Bible literature and history discussions on a gay list with no flames or dissension is quite a feat.
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From: "James Leahy" burghnative@hotmail.com
Subject: Humor: Just a laugh

The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all the background checks, interviews and testing were done there were three finalists: two men and a woman. For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men to a large metal door and handed him a gun. We must be sure that you will follow your instructions no matter what the circumstances. Inside this room you find your wife sitting in a chair, kill her! The man said " you can't be serious, I could never kill my wife. The agent said, then I am sorry, you are not the right person for the job. The second man was given to the second man, he took the gun and went into the room. after five minutes of silence the man came out of the room with tears in his eyes and said I tried but I can't kill my wife. The agent said Then you don't have what it takes now take your wife and go home Finally it was the woman's turn. She was given the same instructions to killher husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots were heard one after another. the agents heard screaming, crashing, and banging on walls, after a few minutes all was quiet. The door opened slowly and there stood the woman, she wiped the sweat from her brow and said, this gun is loaded with blanks, I had to beat him to death with the chair
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From: "Frank Moretti" ri_bare@hotmail.com
Subject: Humor: Just for fun

Survivor, Texas Style

A major network is planning the show "Survivor, Texas Style".

The contestants will start in Dallas, travel through Waco, Austin, San Antonio, down to Houston and Brownsville. They will proceed up to Del Rio, on to El Paso, then to Midland/Odessa, up to Lubbock and Amarillo.

From there, they proceed to Abilene, and on to Ft.Worth and back to Dallas.

Each contestant will be driving a pink Volvo, with a bumper sticker that reads "I'm gay, I voted for Al Gore, & I'm here to confiscate your guns."

The first one to make it back alive to Dallas wins.
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From: Jack McGee jackmc@rocketmail.com
Subject: Re: Just for fun

Frank, they could just run one on driving a truck or a regular sedan from Austin to San Antonio.....that stretch of I-35 is the most dangerous interstate limited access in the US......and the section of it from San Antonio to Dallas is the most dangerous in Texas. With the added Mexican trucks it's going to be unbelievable.

And this is NO joke.
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: The Greeks had a word for it: "Lysistrata"

"Lysistrata" is a classic anti-war satire by Greek playwright Aristophanes first written and performed 400 years before Christ. It is probably still in production on one stage or another at any given moment somewhere in the world today. It has been made into at least one film and has inspired several, including the French "Jessica" in 1962, with its concept of women going "on strike" to deprive their men of sex to achieve a common goal. Lysistrata is the wife who instigates the plan.

It is a funny, sexy comedy filled with wit and earthy humor and features an Old Men's Chorus. The women of ancient Athens refuse their husbands' sexual advances until the men stop feuding with neighboring city-states and make peace. It anticipates the 1960s and 1970s when the mantra "Make love, not war" was coined.

It has wonderful lines such as "they will get their tools up and be wild to lie with us. That will be the time to refuse, and they will hasten to make peace!" One male character crabs about "this erection that I can't get rid of!" Another shouts, "I must have someone to lay, I must!"

I mention it because I ran across a whimsical Aubrey Beardsley drawing from 1896 which illustrated a published edition of "Lysistrata" in the London of that day. It shows the men of Athens parading about with their raging hard-ons, in quest of a "comforting nook." Although the play does not mention it, I imagine they found an unwifely crack or two among themselves in which to sink those "stiff tools"! See attached.
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From: Jack McGee jackmc@rocketmail.com
Subject: Re: The Greeks had a word for it: "Lysistrata"

Ben, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers was also based on Lysistrata. I never saw it on stage and the movie wasn't wonderful though some of the men were hot as hell.........it's a good story.

***** Ben Boxer disagrees on two points:
"Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" (aka "7B47B") is one of my favorite old musicals. I was a devoted fan of Jane Powell's from the first time I saw her in a movie "Song of the Open Road" (??maybe wrong name) about a child singing star who ran away from Hollywood and butched off her hair and dyed it brown with Shinola and mixed in with a group of college kids bicycling around California to pick oranges in the groves. I fucking loved it, and I can still hear her singing on that goddamn bike with all those cute guys around her! That was the image of California I carried in my head until I finally got there and found out that glorious place only existed in the movies!

As for "Seven Brides," it is based on "The Rape of the Sabine Women," the ancient legend about the founding of Rome by Romulus after he killed his twin, Remus. The little village he set up on the banks of the Tiber was long on hot Italian dicks but too short on pussy to make the babies he needed for a thriving population, so Remus invited the neighboring Sabine tribe for the festivities and then snatched their women for a mass wedding to his hot-blooded Romans.

As you know, that is the essential story of "Seven Brides," where the seven mountaineer brothers have got no babes in the woods, so they set off for town and kidnap their pussies of choice and head for the hills where an avalanche cuts them off from the townsmen's retribution. But among the ladies is our pretty but tough-minded Jane Powell who takes charge and makes the girls deny themselves to the frustrated guys until the spring thaw and everybody is in love and gets married.

That is not the same as the women of Athens in "Lysistrata" holding back the nookie until the men make peace with Sparta before they will give them THEIR piece! Granted, it does have the same ring as "Sabine Women," but its specific origin is quite different than the premise of "Lysistrata."
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From: "Stanley R. King" silvrsrk@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: The Greeks had a word for it: "Lysistrata"

It now seems that there has been an opera based on that story written by Mark Adamo. It will be produced by Houston Grand Opera March 8-23, 2002. The productions signature is a "humorous" treatment of the erect penises so prominent in the second act.

Soprano Alexandra Coku, an American based in Europe, will sing the title role. Joe Banno, artistic director of Source Theatre Company in Washington, DC, will direct. Patrick Summers will conduct.

Wouldn't miss this one on a bet.

Silver Stan
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From: g4jke g4jke@ntlworld.com
Subject: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

Dear List,
I observe that a 56k Modem V92 standard with "handshaking" is now being advertised. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge/ opinion on this? Does it present a significant upgrade over a 33.6 KB Hardware modem?

Regards, Derek
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From: RogueKC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

Dear Derek,
You will notice a significant difference from the modem that you are curretnly using (24 or 33.3 baud) and a 56k modem. Not only is the 56k literally about four times faster, it is simply more well equipped to handle downaloads... Hence the numbers don't really mean a great deal, but once you've tried it, you'll be quite amazed.

Your 33.65 is still struggling with old modem activity... a 56K is a modem that has leaned to bypass about 200% (via hardware) of the information that you used to have to digest. You absolutely can't go wrong when upgrading. At the same time, consider DSL, which your phone company runs, takes about ten minutes to install, and quadruples your speed again.... cost about forty bucks a month and is billed on your telephone bill.

While going from 33.3 to 56k, you double your speed. When going from 56k to DSL, you multiply your speed about 400%... for under forty bucks a month. If you spend much time online, I can only say that it is WELL worth the money. Another option is a cable modem, which will give you similar speed, but a few more headaches to figure out.

I am sure there are some real geeks on this list that will be able to break it out far better than I, and they are certainly welcome to... This is just my experience.

Hope that helps, Derek. Good luck, Buddy.

Terry in KC
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From: g4jke g4jke@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

Dear Terry,
many thanks for your comments.

Having 2 computers, I also have 2 modems, both are fax/data only. one is my original Hayes 33.6k, "hardware" type and does usually run at 33.6k. The slowest i've seen it was 28.8K.

The other one is a 56k "software" type and always runs at 44K

I'm considering getting a Webcam and I heard that I'd need a voice/fax/data modem for this. I also understand that phone calls are possible at free internet rates.

I prefer "hardware" types, if only to hear the relay give a reassuring click, so I'm thinking of replacing my 33.6k with a Hayes Accura 56k v/f/d.

That's when I came across the "new" V92 standard and the term "Handshaking"

The reason I've 2 computers is because I kept the "old" Dell 233 MHz Pentium II and built up a newer one based on AMD-6 450mhz.

Needless to say, I have lots of fun ecclectisizing between the two. Both have Windows 98 2nd edition software.

Future plans will be to double up again to AMD Athlone 900MHz, I like to stay one step behind "the latest cutting edge"

Hopefully, by that time, I'll be able to "downstream" from a dish, Satellite, of course.

I trust that the List isn't being bored with this discourse.

Regards, Derek, London, UK
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From: "[SGMS]" sgms@bigfoot.com
Subject: Re: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

GRS replies:

As usual, these advertisements are incomplete. All modems, from the good ol' days of 110 baud models up to present day 56K models use handshaking, which basically regulates the flow of data between the modem and your computer. The handshaking can either be software or hardware, the latter being the fastest.

The speed of 56000 bauds is a theoretical upper limit. The actual improvement you'll get over a 33.6K modem depends largely on the quality of the phone line between your modem and the phone exchange. My V90 modem gives me 45333 or 46667 bauds and I'm very pleased with it - most usually give only 40000-42000 bauds. I don't know where you're from, but communication over phone lines is limited to 53000 bauds in the USA.

Cheers,
GRS
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From: "Don Randolph" dlbs1085@angelfire.com
Subject: Re: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

Those of us who live WAY OUT in the country can only dream about fast modems or cable connections. My phone lines are the pits and I've been told we are years away from high speed connections. I'm hoping the satellite dish connection comes down in price, my nine foot spun aluminum satellite dish is my best connection to the world at large. Just wish I could afford to connect my PC to that puppy.

A side not: Those Rick Majerus fans who have the small digital dishes will be happy to hear you can see him on doing his thing during The Big Dance. He was being interviewed on ESPN, the big guy came across as having some smarts and all around nice guy. BIG GUYS are a turn on for me so I was happy to see he's not just another beautiful body. ;-)

Don
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From: g4jke g4jke@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: 56K Modems V92 versus V90

Dear GRS,
I'm located in London, UK, as in most cities the phone lines are underground. My V90 56K software modem runs pretty consistently at 44KBs so that parallels your experience.

I could get ASDL but the phone company British Telecoms is monopolistic and is resisting any competition in this field, thus keeping both prices high and availability scarce.

That's why I was interested in V92 standard info.

Thanks, Derek, London, UK

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