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-1730s: Amsterdam Sodomites Arrested, Executed
---------------------------------------------------------------------- The eighteenth-century Dutch caption (not visible on this detail) above the engraving which will follow in three-emails representing six parts reads: "Tydelyke Straffe, voorgesteld ten afschrik aller goddeloze en doemwaardige Zondaren" ["Provisional Punishment, presented as a deterrent to all godless and damnable Sinners."] Rijksprentenkabinet ["National Collection of Engravings"], Amsterdam
 "Sodomy in the Netherlands. The six panels depict two men leaving an all-male reception hand in hand (1), women and children fleeing them (2), the [men's] arrest (3), their imprisonment in the dungeons (4), their being hanged, burnt at the stake, garrotted and drowned in a barrel of water in front of Amsterdam's City Hall, including an inserted illustration of the ships from which the bodies of the accused are to be tossed into the sea (5 and 6). There is an allegorical figure in each panel: Sin, Sorrow, Fear, Suffering, Death the Reaper and the Last Judgment with the flaming sword of wrath. . The copperplate engraving is signed 'Amsterdam, G. Bos en G. Bouman' --- probably from the beginning of the 1730s."
[The engraving and its modern-day description were taken from Wilhelm von Rosen's "Månens Kulør:
Studier i dansk bøssehistorie 1628-1912" ["The Color of the Moon: Studies in Gay Danish History
1628-1912"], p. 108, Vol. 1, Rhodos (publ.), Copenhagen, Denmark, 1993. All English translations
are mine.] .Met name de Engelse pers toonde een bijna ziekelijke belangstelling voor wat zich in Holland afspeelde. De .Daily Post-Boy. hoorde daarbij tot de meer objectieve kranten..
Transcription of attached jpg: .The Daily Post-Boy,. June 27, 1730 [Transcription: left row]
Hague, June 23. N.S.
THE Answer of the Court of Vienna to the last Proposals of the Allies of Seville, is still
expected here as well as at London and Paris, with the utmost impatience. Meanwhile, the
Emperor.s Minister at a certain Court has been heard to say, that when it does come, it will not
be to the purpose, as containing neither an Acceptance of those Offers, nor yet a Denial, but
turning the Affair into a Negotiation, if it can be done, to spin out the Time, till the Season of
the Year is past, and nothing left for the Allies of Seville to do, but to suspend the Execution
of their Scheme till the Spring. But if the Imperial Court do not explain themselves after
another manner in a very few days, we are assured by other Hands, that the Allies will not wait
the Issue of a doubtful Negotiation, but proceed to Business without Delay. Yesterday arrived the Mail due from Holland.
Grenada, May 30. N.S. [Transcription: right row] the Fortress, proceeded with a fair Wind out of the Sound.
Hague, June 27. N.S.
SHIP . NEWS At Stockholm were arrived the Ships of John Harrington and Mark Wallis, both from London ; the Ship of Robert Dickenson from S. Ubes ; and the Ship of John Maly from Hull : At Riga, the Quince-Tree, John Quince from [At this point the newspaper page ends.]
[Attachment and D. J. Noordam.s description of "The Daily Post-Boy" article were taken from his
book .Riskante Relaties: Vijf eeuwen homoseksualiteit in Nederland, 1233-1733. [.Risky Relations:
Five Centuries of Homosexuality in the Netherlands.], p. 220, Uitgeverij Verloren (publ.),
Hilversum, The Netherlands, 1995.]
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:07:58 -0700
From: "Ben Boxer"
Hi Ben,
I am in my late 30's and have been in a wonderful 11 year
relationship with my own silver fox - he's considerabllly older than
I. We've been living together for over 10 years, and have a pretty
stable relationship. I was interested in knowing if there are any
guys out there who have been or are in such a realtionship - one in
which there is a large age gap between partners.
I must say that when we first got together the age difference between
my guy and I was not an issue - it's never been an issue for us. I
find though, that when we meet other gay men or gay couples, they
find it unusual that two men, of very diffeent ages, whould be
attracted to each other and have enough in common to keep a
relationship going. It doesn't take them too long, however, to
realize that what we share is a pretty wonderful relationship.
So, just wondering if anyone out there is in a similar situation - or
would like to share their experiences.
Thanks all -
Angel Ham wrote:
In the post-war period he went on to strongly disapprove of Britain
joining the European Economic Community (EEC). Whether or not his
decision is based on the age-long rivalry between France and England
going back to the "100-years war" is another question.
One thing for sure is that France sucks up EU grants like there's no
tomorrow. Almost the entire road system in this country has been
renovated over the past couple of decades - with money from European
grants. Some large companies get European grants to lower their
production costs and make them more competitive on the European market
although these grants often contribute more to the bank accounts of
senior executives than to production costs.
When it comes to money coming into the country, France is certainly very
pro-European, and the French government does like to look pro-European
to outsiders. Let's take a look on the inside....
The internet has been extremely slow to take off in this country because
of an admittedly ingenious (French) invention called the "minitel" about
20 years ago. It's basically a text-based terminal with a built-in
modem, which allows the user to connect to various online services such
as the phone directory, chat services, classifieds etc... through the
phone line - much like a slow internet without graphics. Connection
costs to some services could be as high as about 10FRF (ca. US$1.30) per
minute, which explains why the one and only (state owned) phone company
in this country was reluctant to stop pushing the minitel until only
about a year or two ago when they realised its time was up.
A direct consequence of the late arrival of the internet in this country
is the incapability of insurance companies to insure people like myself
who are trying to fight against the system in order to set up an
internet-related business. There's lots of information about telling
people that the internet is "there", but nowhere near enough telling
people exactly what it is and how it works. "Internet" is firmly
associated with hacking, porn and invasion of privacy in the average
French person's mind. As soon as you mention the work "internet" to an
insurer, he either runs like the wind or quotes a ludicrously high
premium.
The kind of insurance I want is available virtually "off the shelf" with
any insurer in Britain, so I decided to look into being insured by a
British insurer. That's when I found out that foreign insurance
companies - even EU-based - are not allowed to operate in France. They
can operate elsewhere in Europe but French commercial law prohibits them
from operating in France. So much for France's "pro-European" facade.
BTW, a French insurance company I approached and which kicked me out the
door *does* operate in Britain and provides exactly the insurance I
need...
One of the principles of the European Union (to which Britain does
belong) is the free circulation of workers. A British ski monitor was
denied a job in a French ski resort, and the management of the resort
made no attempt at hiding the fact that the job was denied on the
grounds of his nationality. The case went before the European courts,
who found in the Brit's favour and ordered the ski resort to take him
on. They agreed, and promptly denied him the job again for the same
reasons.
Another EU principle is the free circulation of goods. Labour is more
expensive in France than in some other EU member states, so a French car
manufacturer decided to have some spare parts manufactured in another EU
country. The parts were manufactured and subsequently transported to a
3rd EU country, which meant transporting them through France. The trucks
transporting the parts were intercepted by French Customs officials and
the parts were seized on the flimsy (and fallacious since July 94)
pretext of them not being manufactured in the home factories of the car
manufacturer and therefore being counterfeit. Another crack in the
pro-European facade...
France still requires that EU citizens apply for a residence permit to
stay in the country for more than 3 months. Note that I said "apply for"
and not "obtain", because the residence permit can be denied. It's like
an American citizen wishing to move from Virginia to Florida and having
to apply for a Florida permit, knowing full well that Florida can tell
him/her to turn back home.
All in all there are 1459 European directives. Of the 15 member states,
only Greece disregards more of them than France. No member state has
more cases against it in the European Commission than France.
By being an EU member state, France has agreed to abide by the 1459
directives but still does whatever she likes. She certainly does think
that she is the navel of Europe at least - as is plain to see from the
point of view of an EU citizen residing in France.
GRS
These quotes were taken from actual
employee performance appraisals:
"Since my last report, this employee has
reached rock bottom and has started to
dig";
"I would not allow this employee to breed";
"When she opens her mouth, it seems that it
is only to change feet";
"This young lady has delusions of
adequacy";
"He sets low personal standards and then
consistently fails to achieve them";
"This employee is depriving a village
somewhere of an idiot";
"This employee should go far, and the
sooner the better";
"Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic
thing to hold it all together";
"A gross ignoramus - 144 times worse than
an ordinary ignoramus";
"He would argue with a signpost";
"When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell";
"If you see 2 people talking and one looks
bored, he's the other one";
"A photographic memory but with the lens
over the cap";
"Donated his brain to science before he was
done using it";
"If you give him a penny for his thoughts,
you'd get change";
"It's hard to believe that he beat out 1,000
other sperm";
"Some drink from the fountain of
knowledge, he only gargled." End of silverfoxesclub-digest V1 #278
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