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-Re: HELP I need ADVICE badly!! (11)
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One of the great things about the internet is that you hear things that
don't make any sense but are reality for someone else out there.
I think Jason that might be kind of late to try to stop the abuse from your
lover
I am also a young men and was in a loving relationship with a man that I
still love, when it got to the point that I had not to be my self in order
to be in that relationship , I opted to break it, even though it hurt a
lot.
You don't have many options at this point, you either put up with it , or
just put a stop to it. What ever makes sense to you, take a look at yourself
in the mirror and make a decision. Hope it helps
My .02 cents
Mark
Jason:
JT
Gentlemen,
Jason
Jason, I didn't think I would ever write but I just saw a letter advocating you "take it"like the good obedient boy that you are. If I'm not mistaken you didn't get into this relationship knowing that you would be spanked so hard that you have welts --It's one thing to be spanked playfully for some fun or sexual arousal but if you're not into SO&ME then that isn't right. So what has changed? You certainly haven't. You have been playing your role --the son --and him -his role --the dad -that's all great but after all the love and respect you've shown him, one would think that you don't have to tolerate this. As far as being "grounded" --that went out in the dark ages. The only thing grounded anymore is coffee or pepper!! I certainly don't have the answers but my suggestion would be to have an intervention (just kidding) (there needs to be a little humor in all this) -- my suggestion would be to have a heart to heart talk with him and tell him how much you love, care & respect him and if he feels the same way about you he won't lose control and not insist on spanking you so hard that you have welts and ground you besides. I hope that everything works out for you because it takes two to make a relationship work and at this time the ball (belt) is in his corner. Good luck.
Jack from CA
Jason,
I like your willingness to accept the spanking if it is sexual foreplay for him (I'd feel the same way) but not as punishment. You are an adult and the punishment part is silly.
Hal
I need to correct myself: Hal Whitmore wrote: I like your willingness to accept the spanking if it is sexual foreplay for him (I'd feel the same way) but not as punishment. You are an adult and the punishment part is silly. I stated this too strongly, even if it does represent my own feelings. Before someone else points this out, I should say that if _two_ adults care to enter into a relationship in which one controls the behavior of another in a way usually seen in the relationship between an adult and a child it is their business and none of mine. "If it works, don't fix it."
In this case it appears that Jason did not knowingly enter into such a
relationship, and that from his point of view it isn't working.
Jason,
Edward
Jason, I must concur with Edward. This is abuse plain and simple. In the language of the law it is assault. Violence has no place in a healthy relationship nor does being controlled. By being submissive you are taking yourself out of any responsibility for the relationship. If you can't or won't get out then get into some good counseling for both of you.
Bob
Wow! I'm a bit jealous. I've tried to get my older papa to do that to me once in awhile but he won't because he doesn't feel comfortable with that, so we move on to more mutually enjoyable things. We've been together for nearly 7 years and I love him dearly, and things like that are of no consequence. For him to make you feel that you must do this to be with him is just wrong. You need to tell him to respect how you feel about this, and be stern. If your relationship is based on a mutual love for eachother, then you shouldn't have to put up with abusive treatment. Let him know that his anger is destroying your relationship. If you can't resolve this by quiet civilized discussion, not yelling, try seeking outside therapy. And if it's that necessary for him to function, considering telling him to find someone who enjoys being a masochist, with or without you there. That's my advice, take it or leave it. I sincerely hope things resolve for the better.
PolarGizmo
Dear Edward,
Love Rising in Texas,
From: "Pewit" pewit@compuserve.com
Hi there
Regards This may not answer your request, but if you're in San Diego, sounds like you need to get to the Vulcan bath house. There's usually a delightful silverfox clientel and can be a great way to spend part of a day.
PG
Hope that everyone is having a nice day!!!!!!!
"Whats My Name?" - Rated G "John," the new guy replied. The manager scowled, "Look... I don't know what kind of a namby-pamby place you worked before, but I don't call anyone by their first name. It breeds familiarity and that leads to a breakdown in authority. I refer to my employees by their last name only ... Smith, Jones, Baker ... That's all. I am to be referred to only as Mr. Robertson. Now that we got that straight, what is your last name?" The new guy sighed, "Darling. My name is John Darling."
"Okay John, the next thing I want to tell you is . . . " QUICKIES - Rated G
Yo' mama is so fat when she walks across the room the radio skips. "Office Humor" - Rated R An executive was in quandary. He had to get rid of one of his staff. He had narrowed it down to one of two people, Debra or Jack. It would be a hard decision to make, as they were both equally qualified and both did excellent work. He finally decided that in the morning whichever one used the water cooler first would have to go. Debra came in the next morning, hugely hungover after partying all night. She went to the cooler to get some water to take an aspirin and the executive approached her and said: "Debra, I've never done this before, but I have to lay you or Jack off."
Debra replied, "Could you jack off, I have a terrible headache." QUICKIES - Rated R How do you cancel an appointment at the sperm bank?
You call them up and tell them you can't cum! QUICKIES - Rated G
Yo' Mamma's so fat... when she's missing they can't put her
on a milk carton, they put her on the milk truck! QUICKIES - Rated R
First guy (proudly): "My wife's an angel!"
TOP TEN THINGS THAT SOUND DIRTY, BUT AT THE OFFICE
AREN'T:
And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty but at the
office it isn't:
TOP TEN THINGS THAT SOUND DIRTY, BUT IN LAW AREN'T: And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty but in law isn't 1. Think you can get me off?
TOP TEN THINGS THAT SOUND DIRTY BUT IN GOLF AREN'T:
And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty but in golf
isn't:
Leo
Headline:
Text: Tim Cavenagh, an attorney for the alleged victim, Jeffery Lyons, said one officer yelled, "Get that faggot shit away from my truck," before that officer and others began beating and kicking Lyons. Three of the officers were placed on desk duty in November in connection with the alleged attack, but they were placed back on the street when Lyons could not identify them in a line-up. The suit names those three officers as well as other unknown officers.
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This is an actual story, just to let all of my other SilverFox Hunters that dreams DO come true!! The person to whom I had forwarded this story had asked me how high I had gone up in the "Officer" Chain (U.S. Army), and I responded by saying... The highest brass I've had was a "Full Bird", met at the Gym on Base, talked a bit then hit the showers. I had no idea what was to come next!!!! There we were, in the shower all alone at 11 PM one evening...I got in first, gave myself a quick rinse, then lathered up my cock and balls (it's the first thing I wash)..then he walks in..he saw me stare at his pecker (an 8 incher) right off the bat, since he didn't comment, I just turned away a bit and thought that there was no way in hell I'd be that lucky... He started talking some more about himself, told me he was here on a TDY trip, was supposed to be here for a little under 6 months and that he'd already been here a whole 2 weeks (!). He gave me the usual "I miss the family" lines, and that he missed having sex with his wife the most. I told him that there were plenty of women available out in the city--which he quickly responded to as him not being the type that had sex with women he didn't know due to the risk of catching a disease. I then thought that maybe he wouldn't want to get it on with a man either because he hadn't known me that long.. "Proddingly", I told him that there were certain "people" on base that I knew for a fact were clean and that more than certainly he could get laid the instant he wanted it to happen. He was soaping up his cock and balls and noticed him get a hardon. He asked if I thought "these people" could handle a 54 year old Colonel who hadn't gotten laid in over a month now..and I quickly responded to him by saying that he'd be the one "lacking" in any way. I thought he was going to shoot his wad right there, but, he quit playing with it (saving it up for later, you know how old guys are...) We quickly washed off, got dried off, and went outside where I followed him to his room. As soon as we got in there, he gave me a Gin and Tonic and chatted some more. He asked me about "those" people who I was talking about--and I said the hell with it-I'd give him anything he wanted. He asked me if I was a "swallower" or a "spitter", and I quickly told him that I'd swallow every drop of cream he could spit out..He dipped his cock into my drink and had me lick gin and tonic off of his cockhead..which was big and beautiful!! He asked if I had ever eaten ass before, and I told him I had a couple of trophies for doing so back at my apartment..He wanted a demonstration so I gave it to him. He had a nice little furry asshole which took my finger in it real easily. I opened up his cheeks and stuck my tongue into it as far as it'd go in. The feeling of having his nice big balls hitting my chin while I was eating his ass caused my cock to shoot out a wad of precum to which he asked me if I had cum already--I said hell no! I was trying to feel him up his belly and chest to get a feel of his nipples which were already standing at attention. I was playing with them and felt his whole body quiver in pleasure--my tongue in his ass and my fingers pinching his nipples..what else could a man ask for???? I asked him if he had ever taken a nice stiff cockin his ass and he said he hadn't up to that point in his life, but that he was looking forward to it whenever it did happen. Luckily, I had picked up some rubbers earlier that day. When he saw me putting it on, he asked if I minded not using one because he wanted to experience the whole thing--and he had read that rubbers didn't feel "natural". Hell, a Colonel? I threw the fucker away and lubed my cock up. I made him get on all fours and I got behind him and shoved my hot cock right into his eager little hole. I'm sure it hurt him like hell for about 10 seconds then I told him to relax a little. Once he loosened up his ass muscle, I gave it a little push in and he screamed out "Jesus"..Just the way I like it, I like it when they feel the pain but love every second of it. I grabbed him by his sides and started pushing in and pulling out a bit, massaging it a little. His ass was so nice and warm, and my cock wanted to shoot out a load of cum so badly, but I held back and was going to give him a very good fucking.I made him lay in his belly and I kept on fucking him for a couple of minutes. One thing that turns me on is while I'm fucking an older guy, I love seeing his neck, counting the wrinkles and looking at his hair and ears, grey hair really turns me on. I was looking at his back also, real nice skin all the way down to his ass which at the time was being fucked nice and hard. I looked at my own cock going into a Colonel's ass and thought to myself--You lucky bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally, I couldn't contain it any longer, so I told him that he had better get ready for a load of cum to be pumped into him and I let it out. I roared as my cock spat out a couple of ounces of cum, and I shot it all inside of him. His fucking ass was going crazy...I knew he had never gotten fucked before and he couldn't have asked a better fucker than me to do it to him.. He told me he was ready to shoot his wad out also, so I asked him to go wash his ass first so that he could sit on my face while he jacked off..When he returned, he got over me, put his ass on my face and jacked off. The feeling of his nuts hitting my chin was enough to give me a hardon again, so I joined him in jacking off. He got up a little, just enough to feel his nuts just barely hitting my face and I felt his whole body quiver--I quickly asked him to shoot it into my mouth, so he put his cock right in front of my mouth and let out such a shot of cum, I guess he hadn't had an orgasm in some time because he gave me plenty of it. I quickly came myself and shot cum all over my chest..a small amount even made it onto his back!! After all this, we laid in bed for a while and talked some more. Lucky for me, he was going to be around for a while longer, so we had our usual sessions--at least 4 times a week. He came over to my apartment most of the time, I gave him some drinks and put a movie on the VCR...didn't take much to get his old horny ass get all worked up. This guy was Army, the type that looked like an "Army" type also--rough face, big "man" hands, the type you don't find on somebody that sits behind a desk all day. He might be coming back in a couple of months (we keep in contact via e-mail). Even if he doesn't, he said I could go visit him back home...he even offered to pay for my way to go see him. He's since gotten separated from his wife and lives by himself. He's retiring pretty soon... Can't wait til we meet again...
David This has become a busy list with a sizeable membership in just a short time -- 3 1/2 months, to be exact. I would like to compliment the growing army of posters for their restraint in dealing with some very sensitive threads. I have witnessed on other lists how careless remarks can fuel a brush fire which escalates quickly into a major conflagration. None of you has been that careless. Thank you. To those whom I may have reprimanded in private -- and there are damn few of you, amazingly -- please try to remember that my job as list manager is to put out fires before they start. I have no animus toward you on the personal level. Judgment in each situation is necessarily my call. I have but one goal: to maintain a harmonious and relatively peaceful environment where men may express themselves freely like gentlemen while having fun like rowdies who yet remain aware of their responsibility not to tear up the joint as if they were part of a bar brawl in a John Wayne film.
So belly up to the bar, boys. The drinks are on
the house -- unless the Clubhouse mascot, Studly,
beats you to the beer.
Alert member Big-ol-Bearcub@webtv.net has just advised me that you guys better hustle on over to the bar. You've got more competition there than Studly the virtual silver fox. See attached bear-and-honey gif. And don't let the honeypot fool you -- the Egyptians made their beer from fermented honey and water, the same way mead, a strong alcoholic beverage, was produced in the Middle Ages. Some of you silverfoxes who served as Occupationaires in Japan after WW II may remember the socially despised "eta" who were employed in the Asian (Japan, China, etc.) custom of going from house to house in the early morning to collect "night soil" (human excrement) from domestic chamber pots in buckets swinging on a pole laid across their shoulders, which they called "honeypots." Hmmm. That gives a whole new meaning to getting "shit-faced" when you think of beer made from honey, doesn't it? Not to mention the etas who also collected human urine for use in tanning leather. To tell the truth, as a teetotaler I find that beer tastes like piss to me!
Drink up, fellas! Thank you, Ben....for your wise words of wisdom!! I'll have a second beer, thank you!! hic
Larry
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