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-Humor: Hi-Tech
------------------------------------------------------------------ A guy walks into a bar and sits down. He starts dialing numbers on his hand as if it were a telephone, then puts his palm to his cheek and begins talking. Suspicious, the bartender goes over and tells him this is a very tough neighborhood and he doesn't want any trouble from the locals so stop acting nutty. The guy replies: "You don't understand. I'm very hi-tech. I had a phone installed in my hand because I was tired of carrying the cellular." The bartender says, "Prove it," so the guy dials a number and lifts his hand to the bartender's face. The bartender talks into the hand and carries on a conversation. "That's incredible!" says the bartender afterward. "I would never have believed it!" "Yeah," says the guy, "I can keep in touch with my broker, my wife, you name it. By the way, where is the men's room?" The bartender points it out, and the guy goes in. He's gone five, ten, twenty minutes. Baffled, the bartender checks out the john and finds the guy spread-eagle against the wall with his pants down around his ankles and a roll of toilet paper stuffed up his ass. "Oh, my God!" cried the bartender. "Did somebody rob you? Are you hurt?"
"Oh, no problem," the guy replies nonchalantly.
I'm just waiting for a fax."
Now you can boost the reliability of ordinary Windows ME, 95 and 98 to nearly the level of Windows NT or 2000, Microsoft's professional and industrial version of Windows. The new WinFix is a very effective way to improve the reliability of Windows, because it makes Windows fault-tolerant and self-repairing. Above is an excerpt from a piece of commercial spam I received (but not from this list). Does anyone know about practical ways to make Win 98 more stable? Is the above product useful?
Thanks.
The only reason Windows 98 isn't "stable" is because people install all sorts of programs that are corrupted or that just "don't work" and automatically assume Windows is the problem. I have ran Windows 98, 98SE, and Millenium and have never had an "unstable" computer because I take care and install only programs that I know for certain work, and only install name-brand components on my computer (I would never buy a brand name computer, always build one from scratch!!) Some people go out and buy the cheapest piece of hardware they can find and expect it to perform like the most expensive one. I understand about trying to 'save money', god knows I am not rich myself, but, you have to understand "you get what you pay for". I know a couple of programs that (as a matter of factly) cause problems--the biggest one being McAfee's Virus Scanner. I have yet to run a computer with this program installed on it. It slows your computer down by about 25%, and on top of that, it isn't that good of a antivirus program. I only use Norton's now. It is reliable and you get free updates for a whole year. Another big mistake some people do is install all sorts of 'chat' programs (Yahoo, MS Messenger, ICQ, etc.) and these programs are always running on your taskbar (bottom right hand corner of your screen). These programs take up memory and if you run out of memory, your computer WILL crash. Take a look and see how many programs you can count on your taskbar. If you have more than 4 icons on it, you are slowly choking your computer's memory.. BTW, I have 6+ years of experience working with computer hardware/software (even though I don't get paid for it, that's why they put 'and additonal duties as assigned' on your job description.....) I wouldn't expect this "WinFix" program to do anybody any good-the only remedy for a choking computer is to add more memory to it. With Windows 98, you should have at least 128 megabytes of RAM. 32, 64, nor 96 megabytes of memory is not enough..Hell, I have 256 and still have memory leaks...This 'Winfix' program is just something else to take up more precious memory...It has to run in the background in order for it to work-kinda like an antivirus program.
David
When it comes to technology and electronics, this cub has the info. There are several things to keep in mind when you talk about o.s. (operating system) stability. Depending on how hard you push your system and how much resorce you have, can dicate how stable your o.s. can/will be. REsorces generally comes in two forms; hard drive space and memory. If one or both are limited, all sorts of problems can happen (i.e. lag and freezing). Memory comes in two forms, actual and virtual. This can get rather technical, the long/short of it is that you have megs of memory your computer uses when you run programs (actual) and some of your hard drive space can be used to run programs (virtual). Windows needs 64 megs of memory to run properly. That doesn't mean it can't run with less, it means there's a good chance that Windows will be unstablity. But on top of the 64 megs dedicated to Windows, you'll need additional memory to run whatever programs you use. THat's one surefire way to prevent instability. Another way, if you don't want to buy addition memory, would be to use a utility program that can keep tabs on what's going on in your system. The program you're talking about sounds like one, but I'm not familiar with it. One of the most commonly used utilities is Norton Utilities. I used it for a while but I wasn't happy with it. Windows has utilities built in it. But they are often slow and unreliable. I recomment Fix It Utilities 6.0 by Ontrack. It's fast and has a lot to offer. It's easy to install and use. Go to downloads.com and you can download a shareware version. The shareware version is ok, but it doesn't offer as much as the full version. Any other tech questions? Good luck, and remember...You're computer is smart enough to not let you screw it up without giving you a chance to rethink what you're doing.
Fred
Dave wrote:
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GRS says: GRS continues: Memory leaks usually stem from badly written applications which claim system resources and don't release them once they're no longer needed. A classic example of this is Internet Explorer versions 4 and 5 which doesn't free resources when you close a browser window. Even if you had a gigabyte of RAM installed in your machine you'd still run out of "memory" (system resources in reality).
GRS
Hey guys,
Mark Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I ADORE my silverfox and love the spankings I get. I just wondered if any other older/younger couples engaged in the same behavior or if I'm just a big kinky mess!
Jason Thanks Truthbear and the others that responded. I got some really negative responses, which I sort of expected given my experience in the past with a spanking fetish. It is always so interesting to me. When I was living a "straight" life there were so many people intolerant of gay life. When I came out and then told my gay friends of my desire for older men, I was ridiculed by many. Now when I ask about a spanking fetish within an older/younger group I receive a great deal of ridicule as well. (in addition to a lot of support!). How curious that folks like us who have been so harassed for so long are still so judgemental of one another. One wonders if we aren't our own worst enemies! Take care, love to all.
mark An aside from Ben Boxer: I have read this in the Approval Queue and feel called upon to apologize for the doofuses who have written to you expressing intolerance for your turn-on tastes. It may comfort you to know that I am just as intolerant of them. They have flamed you privately despite my admonition against private flaming on the list just two days ago. You are a much finer man than they because you have not squealed on them individually, by name. If you get any more, please let me know who they are. Anybody who challenges you with such thoughtless mental cruelty is a liability on this list. They are not welcome here. Numbers on a list don't impress me. It's the attitudes they represent that matter. BTW, my lover spanks me sometimes, too. Playfully, when I insist he punish me for my infractions of the house rules -- such as passing his computer chair without leaning down for his kiss or taking a shower alone without letting him soap me down and scrub me with the Japanese ofuro cloth or staying at my computer late at night and forgetting to go to bed when he does and cuddle him to sleep, even if I get up again when he is in dreamland and continue my work on my sites and the list. It feels good. I didn't go for spanking when I was younger, but I like a bit of it now. Maybe if he were twice my size I'd hide in the closet, but as he is less than half my size (and half my age), I accept my "punishment" with equanimity, knowing that if he overdoes it, I can sit on him and immobilize him in a flash! Hee hee! P.S. Notice to the doofuses who flamed j.r.: Try it on me, hambones, and see what you get!
Ben Boxer THANKS for the support. Ben you are the consumate gentleman. George of Boston, I had that pic of you in my favorite documents folder before I even joined this group. That is the HOTTEST picture I think I've come across. Ben and George are two VERY hot silverfoxes. Yes George I saw you picture story and it was wonderful. Now a challange: Ben has told us of his occasional spankings. GEorge of Boston have YOU ever been spanked? I mean EVER (childhood included). The world is waiting for you response!
THanks,
Dear Mark, I have since, had a sexual awarness...as well as a personal one.... a wake-up call... and have begun to follow what I feel.. not what others do. A tremendous load has been lifted from my shoulders... as I am a man who enjoys sex..mostly giving pleasure...Romantic..deeply passionate Now I am enjoying my sexuality with men who are like minded. Once in a while, a woman enters the scene... but on common terms... not just one sided. I happen to have a strong "fetish" streak emerging.. where I want to try a variety of erotic enjoyments...Try it..you may like it attitude. this includes some mild spanking, when added to some other fetishes. I encourage any and all people I meet to live the lives they feel comfortable with... they enjoy... and as long as we do not hurt anyone.. do damage.. or cause undue pain and hardship... then what gives us pleasure.....and love.... is OK. This is just a brief comment to your E-Mail. I could go on forever giving my opinions and feelings on "Life"... because thats what it is.. "Your lifestyle".. which is original unto you. You seem like a very loving.. compassionate person.... Enjoy.... the years pass by very quickly. Thanks for reading this.. and taking the time.
Quietfox
Hey Mark -- I must admit that I was startled several years ago when I first got into the chat rooms with the handle "Big Daddy" -- which I had chosen because of a slight resemblance to Burl Ives in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" -- at the number of younger guys who wanted to be spanked -- I even suggested to one young man that if it was fun for him he ought to spank me too -- he told me I was "very strange" and disappeared. I don't think I'd want to spank someone hard enough to raise welts -- hell that would hurt my hand -- but I'm perfectly happy (and even sometimes a bit turned on) to turn a nice bare ass pink if it pleases the lad. Personally I'd not want to be in a relationship where spanking was a form of serious punishment (I've raised two biological sons, and I have no interest in disciplining a lover) but a "fun" spanking -- no problem. Enjoy!
Hal I've spanked George many times. He just giggles like a schoolgirl. ;-)
Terry in KC j r wrote: George of Boston, have YOU ever been spanked? I mean EVER (childhood included). The world is waiting for your response!
Dear Mark, Let's go back in history. In 1820, my namesake, my great-grandfather George, whose picture is still on the walls of my little apartment, left the German-speaking region of France called Alsace to emigrate to USA. Settling in Ohio, he had 12 children. One was a son named George, my grandfather. (Another of his sons was named William, the father of a well-known golfer of the past, named Billy.) This George had a son named George, my father. He had a son George - me. My son George had a son named George - my grandson, now a college student. Six Georges, all in a row. These first four Georges had a secret. They were physically and emotionally abusive fathers. I can't tell you details about my great-grandfather's treatment of my grandfather, but he was very tough on him. My grandfather was very tough on my father. My father repeated the pattern on me. Only one example out of many too many: When I was about 5 or 6 (I started first grade when I was 4 years and 9 months old), I hated to get out of bed in the morning to go to school. Now this was not a matter of hating school work. I received all A's, and was promoted to the third grade (skipping second grade) when I was 5 years and 9 months old. Imagine this - in the third grade before I was six. I couldn't relate to my fellow students. I was simply not old enough or mature enough physically or socially to play with them. So school was a particular hell. I would dream in the morning that I was out of bed, dressed, up and about, but in reality I was still sleeping. This particular morning, when I was 5 or 6 years old, my father had had enough of my failure to meet his (legitimate) expectations. He dragged me out of bed, beat me with a narrow board, not on my bare boybutt, but lower on my bare thighs. He would have called this a deserved spanking. I went to school. In a couple of days, large bruises showed on the back of my legs. Then it was Sunday, in the warm weather time of year. I was forced, against my loud protests, to go to church wearing short pants. My bruises on the back of my thighs showed to all the adults and all the children of a very small farming community, which included most of my school mates. The humiliation of this was far, far greater than the pain of the physical beating. This type of behavior never really stopped until I chose to keep apart from him physically in my middle teens. This man didn't drink alcohol, never used drugs, and was known as a model citizen in his church and community. He never touched my mother or my sister in an unkind way. The last time my father bloodied me (my face, this time) was when I was 16 and already in college. I never lived in his house again after that by my choice, except for very short periods of a few weeks during two summers while I was in college. My first summer in college, I refused to go back to my parent's house, and spent the summer elsewhere, working and studying. Anything to avoid him. After I graduated, and married, and had my own children, I saw him regularly throughout his whole life until he died. We never were able to talk to each other about anything meaningful for nearly 70 years, just platitudes and noise. When he died, only a few years ago at the age of 90, my foremost thought at his funeral was that he could no longer hurt me. What a waste. My son, with whom I was sometimes excessively harsh, though nothing like my father to me, has broken the horrible family pattern and has always been gentle and loving to his son, my grandson. God bless him for that. But my son has not spoken to me for 10 years except at family funerals. What a waste.
So ......... All too well.
George of Boston.
Hi Man, Enough of that fancy stuff - if onyboady else gies ye shite, ah'll get ma cousin Jimmy tae cum ower there and "gi'e them heid" Scots style.
All the best (orrabeast), bostbill@ix.netcom.com writes: There is spanking and there is abuse. Oh great. Now my comment made in total jest will make me out to be the biggest jerk alive. Haha... Oh well, it's not the first time, surely won't be the last. Thanks, though, for sharing. My relationship with my Dad was very similar, so I ran away to the seminary at thirteen, from there straight to college. I've not spent a single night in his house since I left at thirteen, and I never will. Interestingly, I think that is the most awful punishment that could be doled out... He still feels ashamed to this day that he couldn't be a more gentle parent to his youngest child. The GOOD news is that time does seem to have some healing power to it, and my Dad and I get along pretty darn well now. We certainly don't spend Sundays working on his big ol' truck, but I can have him in my home, and I can be in his home, without the two of throwing anything at each other, and believe it or not have a pretty pleasant time. I'm glad for this not for he, nor me... but for my mother. She deserves the best life has to offer, and having all of us together is the most important thing in the world to her. So for me, at least, the reconciliation, though long and sometimes just as painful as thet razor strap that hung on the wall, has been worth it. Sorry to go on so. One more thought, that I think might echo a bit of Bill's experience...
My Dad didn't spank me... He BEAT ME UP. Very different things entirely.
My Dearest George, Role playing in moderation is one thing, abuse is a different story, and we must always be mindful to not cross the line. Crossing the line for me was a back had to the face, and blood streaming from my nose onto my clean, white shirt. I was 10. A MEMORY.
Love Rising in Texas, Ain't it amazing how one's most hurtful experiences can seem humdrum when you find out there are thousands of people in a similar situation. The Wicked Stepmother told my old man that I was a queer the first time she met me(I was 3). So he spent the next 12 years or so trying to beat it out of me with straps and sticks and other educational tools. I've never had the guts to ask him if he got a hard-on as he whipped my rosy ass. So I'm the last person who should enjoy that sort of thing. But I'll try almost anything once. So I asked my current fb to be my daddy for a day, and bend me over his knee. What a difference! I could feel his dick trying to fuck my navel as he worked, and the tingling was incredible. After he was done, he took me in his arms, kissed me all over, and screwed me until I was crying in ecstacy. My father always said he loved me and the beatings were for my own good, too bad he never proved it with the occasional affectionate gesture! We might be speaking today, 40 years later. And no, I'm not advocating fucking little boys, just that a little kissing and hugging of your kids can do wonders.
Killer Walther Roeber wrote: Dear George, Thank you so much for sharing a hidden dark side of your youth...(snip)
Dear Walther,
George of Boston.
Hi Ken,
Love Rising in Texas,
George...
I second that emotion
Dear Jim,
Both of my children are better parents than I was.
George of Boston.
Spanking is not an enormous turnon for me, but it
pleases and/or excites some sweet boy or daddy I'm
enjoying, I enjoy it too. The only things that i
truly disapprove of are forced sex or sex with those
in no position to acquiesce or refuse. Pain doesn't
excite me, but I can enjoy tying up a sexy man....and
putting him in sling is good too. Certainly makes
some of his best assets easily accessable.
The main thing is: if it excites you, go for it. If
it turns you off, don't do it. If it's not a big deal
one way or the other, but it is to a nice guy, give
him what he needs sometimes. God knows, you expect
your needs to attended to.
Sex is sex, sex is good. Cock is good. Affection is
good. Love is exquisite. Let's take what we need and
give what is needed when we are able.
Subject: Re: RE: Dads and Sons + Spanking Hear, hear, Jack! Very well said. I've lost count of the number of really hot-looking men (at least to me) that I've kicked out of bed because they have absolutely no interest in getting me off. My position is that pleasing your partner is a major goal of good sex, and if all you want to do is please yourself, then go find someone who enjoys being a victim. And to forestall flames from guys who get off on no reciprocation, which is a totally valid position that I enjoy sometimes, too, the parallel exists - How do you feel in that situation if the guy insists on groping you(or more) when that's not what you want? Too much me me me for my taste. I really get off the most on the feedback that can be generated if both partners spend time on finding each other's buttons and pressing them. My $.02 Killer ------------------------------ From: "Ron Halverson" halcalif@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Dads and Sons + Spanking
Hi Killer and Guys
Hugs, Ron I have had some really hot sexual encounters that did not involve any reciprocity whatsoever. However, I have to say, those encounters pretty much disappear from my memory within a day or so. Those intimate moments that I remember, that remain a significant part of my fantasy life, are those encounters when two men are REALLY into one another, each enjoying one another greatly, together; those experiences when both parties just can't seem to get enough of each other... Those are the memories that seem to last in my mind. It simply seems that they are so much more INTENSE... SO much more. I suppose, for me at least, that ought to tell me something about which is more important, enjoyable, and memorable.
Terry in KC Maybe one of the computer experts on the list can help me solve a problem. I have a Gateway Profile (thin screen with all the guts in the screen case)....it was in Gateway's "hospital" for a total of three to four months during the first year I owned it. The problem I'm having now is that the registery error window pops up each time I start the computer(just after all the icons appear). Also, especially with a warm boot, I get the "DOS" screen (the black screen with all the lines of stuff I don't understand) that ends with the "C:" at the bottom. I can't get out of it...have to reboot again. When it is just the registery error screen, I just pull it down to the bottom and ignore it and everything seems to work well.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. It looks like your machine does have a pretty serious problem. I doubt it has anything to do with your monitor, more likely causes of registry corruption are faulty RAM or a faulty hard disk. Faulty RAM would show up almost as soon as some of the system drivers are loaded by Windows, if not you'd get a BSOD (blue screen of death) from time to time. If my assumption of a faulty hard disk is correct, the chances are you're going to have to reinstall Windows at some point, so back up your data before going any further. What we need to know is whether you'll also need to change your hard disk or whether you can isolate the faulty parts and just not use them. Go into your Start Menu / Programs / Accessories / System Tools and run ScanDisk. Click on ScanDisk's "Advanced..." button and feed in the following information:
Display summary: Always Click on [OK] In ScanDisk's main window, choose "Thorough" as the type of test to perform, and click on the "Options..." button. In the "Areas of the disk to scan" frame, choose "System and data areas". Leave both checkboxes below unchecked and click on [OK] This test will take quite a long time to perform, especially if you have a large hard dick - er, no, disk. Start by disabling your screensaver so it doesn't interfere with ScanDisk: right-click on an empty part of your desktop and choose "Properties". Go into the "Screen Saver" tab of the "Display Properties" dialogue box which appears, drop down the list of available screen savers and choose "(None)" which is right at the top of the list, then click on [OK]. Finally, click on [Start] in ScanDisk's window. You might as well go and do something else now because this test is fairly long. At the end of it you'll know whether any faulty parts of the disk have been found and whether or not it was possible to isolate them and mark them as unusable. The problem you've been describing looks like there is a faulty sector on the hard disk right bang in the middle of one of the system files which contains the registry. Hope this helps!
GRS Nail in the Fence: There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His Father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence. The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence. Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temperThe days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. He said, You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is still there." A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one. Friends are very rare jewels, indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share words of praise and they always want to open their hearts to us." It's National Friendship Week. Show your friends how much you care.
AtomicPunk (Joe)
Headline:
Text:
How do fat men have sex ? Does a short penis on a fat man
make a difference? Does a big ass help or is it a hindrance?
I am trying to understand. I'm not fat, and I love fat guys
but I haven't had any. They are so
cute! ;-)
just drop me an email Marlon...and I will show you....demonstration and "hands-on" workshops are the best....teeee heeeee....
Dear Marlon,
George of Boston. they have it on their backs, on their bellies, on their knees, on all fours, on their sides, floating in a swimming pool (of spa), and whatever other position you can think of. Been there and done that with lots of very chubby men. And it is not the size of the fuse; its the dynamite to which it's attached that makes the difference.
don
------------------------------ Marlon, as a certified chubby chaser I feel I can offer you some advice. First of all, 'fat' men have sex just like any other men. Just because a guy has a heavy build does not mean he can't indulge in the same practices as a slim man. Ok, some positions are a little bit more awkard, but half the fun of being with a big guy is finding new positions! Far more interesting adapting to someone elses shape than copying what all the twinks do :-) It is also a complete myth that big guys have small cocks. Just look at the variation of cocks on slim guys, some are big, some are small. Big guys are no different. It can appear that a big guy has a small cock in relation to his body size, but then you put it in your mouth and realise just how big it is(!) A big guy who is a 'top' and has a modest penis size can run into a few problems when fucking because the overhanging belly can get in the way. But all he has to do is rest his belly on the arse of a guy and his cock will quite easily slip in and out. And a big arse is in no way a hindrance! In fact it is an immense turn on for me, and the feel of my cock buried inside a huge butt with my groin and hips banging against his big, fleshy arse cheeks is just heaven. Bear in mind that I weigh 140lbs, have been with chubs ranging from 250 to 400lbs and also 5' 4" to 6' 3". My preference is for the shorter chub, but there are many gorgeous 6 footer chubs that I fall for. My two fantasy silver fox chubs are Helmut Kohl and Edward Asner. Kohl is 6' 4" and Asner is much shorter, probably about my height. Both are drop dead gorgeous in my eyes. Never once have I experienced any problems with a guys size other than a sixty niner. That was more due to the difference in height, not easy when I am 5' 8" and he was 6' 3"! The weight issue also comes up - people think that a big guy will crush someone like me. Quite the opposite. I love a big guy putting all his weight on me, hugging me while I am flat on my back. The feel of all his flesh on me is nirvana. And afterwards, just try snuggling up to the chest and belly of big guy and having him engulf you. It feels so secure and protective, as well as soft and cuddly that I just drop off to sleep with his arms round me. Not everyone is attracted to big men, but those that are will often settle for nothing less. If you like big men then go for it. The one thing you don't get from them is the gym obsessed body fascist mentality. What you do get is a guy who is just 'him', has nothing to prove other than to offer love and warmth. Believe me as well, that some chubs have chasers queueing up to spend the night with them. I think that secretly a lot of gay men like their men on the large side but are too scared to admit it. When most adverts use slim, muscle bound men to promote their products it is hardly surprising that many men think it 'wrong' to like someone large. It doesn't help the big men either, giving them low self esteem as they fail to match up to the media's image of the perfect man. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Chubby silver foxes to my eyes are always beautiful. So Marlon, throw away your pre-conceived conceptions and find a chubby guy to have fun with. If you like it you won't settle for anything less. Good luck!
Hugs,
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