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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Friday, February 16 2001
Volume 01 : Number 142/3

In this issue:

-Phelps in Michigan
-Court strikes down antiharassment policy
-Some stranger saved my life
-Quote of the Day
-Dutch Prince (9)
-Minnesota humor
-Humor: Dating

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From: "luvhog" luvhog@ameritech.net
Subject: Phelps in Michigan

Gentlemen,
I live in Ann Arbor Michigan and this weekend Fred Phelps of God hates Fags is coming to town. I just received an e-mail from our primary local watering hole for the gay and lesbian community. It seems that Mr. Phelps has decided to picket in front of the bar from 4:30 to 5:30 in the afternoon.

What I find amazing is the response from my community. The owners of the bar have started a pledge drive in honor of the occasion. the following is an excerpt from the e-mail I received today.
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"Martin and I are pledging $1 to the Washtenaw Rainbow Action Project (WRAP) for every minute he protests. That way, every minute he is here he gets to help raise money for an organization which promotes a "sodomite and sinful lifestyle".

If you want to join us, email me your pledge. Pledge as little or as much as you want. A dime pledge will only cost you $6.00 if he's here the full hour. $1.00/minute would equal $60.00. Feel free to "cap" your pledge at an hour so you don't worry about Fred breaking your budget. He's enough of a troublemaker.

We'll publicize at the protest how much money The Good Reverend is helping us raise for WRAP for every minute he is here. You are welcome to come down from 4:30 to 5:30. But please come in and DO NOT react to him. (I've got a new martini looking for a name....maybe we'll inaugurate it and call it a Phelp Phundraiser or the like. If so, we'll add a portion of those sales to our pledge).
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Comment:
I think this is a wonderful idea and should any of your communities get chosen to be visited by Mr. Phelps you may want to suggest the same type of response.

dave aka luvhog
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From: "luvhog" luvhog@ameritech.net

My dear friends,
Earlier, I posted an announcement about a local fund raising event to make a positive out of Fred Phelps's visit to my home town of Ann Arbor, Michigan.

As of 8:00 this evening pledges have been made that will bring almost $100 per minute that Phelps maintains his harangue of hatred outside of the bar. The amazing thing is that the idea of a pledge drive originated just yesterday afternoon.

I would like to thank those members of this list who have written either to me or to the AUTBAR with pledges or letters of support. You are truly an amazing group of guys. Pledges have come in from Boston, Palm Springs, Miami, San Francisco, and Texas that I know of and I was informed that other pledges have been received that I am sure are from you guys. Thanks. dave aka luvhog
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Court strikes down antiharassment policy

Ben Boxer notes: The sort of ruling reported below further supports the activities of Christians like Rev. Fred Phelps -- if you dare to call such people Christians. Well, at least they're teaching evolution again in Kansas! All is not lost. More disappointing to me is that the Queen of the Netherlands has threatened to bypass her second son's right to the throne because she thinks he is gay, which he denies. Even in Holland where gay marriages and gay rights are legally recognized, its social leadership ranks us with turds. I guess when they say "shit happens," they mean us. Thanks a lot.

Headline:
Court strikes down antiharassment policy
(The Advocate)

Text:
A federal court in Philadelphia on Wednesday struck down a school district's antiharassment policy on the grounds that it violated the rights of Christian students who want to condemn homosexuality, The Philadelphia Inquirer reports. The three-judge panel of the U.S. court of appeals for the third circuit unanimously struck down the State College area school district's policy on the grounds that it was "overly broad." The policy bans "unwelcome verbal, written, or physical conduct which offends, denigrates, or belittles an individual." The suit was brought on behalf of David Warren Saxe, an education professor at Pennsylvania State University who is legal guardian for two children in the school district. Saxe's children are Christians who believe that homosexuality is a sin. They argued that their faith requires them to share their beliefs with others. The Saxes were represented by the American Family Association Center for Law and Policy, a religious right group based in Tupelo, Miss. Bryan Brown, the Saxes' attorney, said that "there are a lot of [policies] like State College, and a lot of them are going to fall." The ruling is the first federal court decision on a school district's antiharassment policy and could result in similar decisions by other federal courts elsewhere.
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From: tomwpit tomw.pit@verizon.net
Subject: Some stranger saved my life

Hello to all,
I wanted to share this act of kindness with the group.

Where I come from the people think New York City is a fierce and unfriendly place. When I told them I was moving there they said they would be scared to live in such a place. Well I didn't take their advice and moved to the Big Apple anyway.

I am living with a man that I love and we live in Manhattan. He has two small dogs that are very dear to him. He has had "the girls" for over eleven years and me for only one. They other night I took out the trash and one of the dogs slipped out unnoticed. She usually sleeps in the front room so we didn't discover she was missing for about three hours. In New York a house dog won't last very long on the street. They picked up by someone who will do God only knows what and this was a beautiful pure bred miniature schnauzer. Once we had discovered the dog was missing, it was midnight, we went out with the hopes we could find her. We only went a block whistling for her when we were approached by a couple. They had found our dog and rescued her off the street! She had gone home with a friend of theirs and she was planning on putting up posters in the morning in hopes of finding the owner. The next morning the woman just up and dropped her off at our door. This woman completely went out of her way to do this kind act. Don't believe that people just walk away in New York City, it is not true.

A friend of mine that knows my companion said to me "if that dog had disappeared you would be dead right now" ... that stranger did save my life.

Tom
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Quote of the Day

Paul Wellstone, the Democratic Party's most fervently outspoken champion of liberal and progressive causes, announces the reason for going back on his earlier pledge not to run for a third term as senator from Minnesota in 2002: "The spectacle of the Republican control of the whole national government -- and I include the Supreme Court -- fills me with such dread that I feel I have no choice but to stand with my fellow Senate Democrats against the retrenchment of social policy I see ahead."
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From: "Ben Boxer" benboxer@mediaone.net
Subject: Dutch Prince

Headline:
Dutch Prince Is Straight, Says Government
(Data Lounge, 15 Feb)

Text:
AMSTERDAM -- Prince Johan Friso of the Netherlands is not gay, the Dutch government announced Wednesday to the stunned amusement of Amsterdam's lesbian and gay community.

The handsome Prince Friso has become something of a gay icon in Amsterdam, his popularity rivaling that of the adored Queen Beatrix. Pictures of the Prince and Queen adorn gay bars and pubs throughout the capital, and whether it be truth or merely wishful thinking, gay rumors about the 32-year-old unmarried prince have circulated for years.

Part of his popularity in the community has come from the good natured manner in which he shrugged off the rumors. But his mood soured when the prince reportedly learned his younger brother Constantijn was favored by his mother to be next in line to the throne, owing to her belief that the rumors were true.

The Dutch government, therefore, took the highly unusual step of acknowledging and refuting questions about the prince's sexual orientation. "He's fed up with these rumors," government spokesman Eef Brouwers told Reuters. "He's not a homosexual."

Speculation about who should be named next in line to the Dutch throne have been running thick through Amsterdam. The news agency say that most expected the heir to the throne, the Crown Prince Willem-Alexander, to marry his Argentine girlfriend, Maxima Zorreguieta.

Some have questioned however, whether Willem-Alexander will damage his chances of becoming the Dutch king if he marries Maxima because of her father's close ties to the military junta that ran Argentina's "dirty war."
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From: "Bob Deal" bdeal@kc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Honeeeeey! I sure would love to have him as my prince... ...laying in front of a fireplace with nothing but wool (white) socks and a raging hard on!

hugs
Bob
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From: "Bob Mac" bobmac2001@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Greetings from the frozen north,

I sure would love to have him as my prince laying in front of a fireplace with nothing but wool (white) socks and a raging hard on!.

I really have to wonder whether you aren.t in breach (and I can tell you would like to be in his.) of royal etiquette or, even, lese majeste (just can.t get those French accents in e-male). After all, we.re talking about European Royalty here . he.s a bona fide Prince for goodness sakes! Raging hard on . yes. Rampant in front of a fire . definitely. Wool . maybe (silk preferably). But white socks . Mon Dieu, only for tennis, old bean. (Nude, royal tennis, hmm). I don.t want to sound like a snob (.cos I ain.t, pal) but really, a prince of the realm (even the Belgian one) shagging down with just anyone (no offence intended) is just too, too outrageous to contemplate. (Hey, camp goes with territory - royal that is, not mine.)

After all, what would our own dear, vaguely Scottish (or just vague), Prince Charles think . probably want to talk to them . the socks that is (or more likely, their ancestors, the sheep). (And what would the Queen say . but I leave that up to you.) Anyway, he.d be shocked and, I dare say, so would the sheep. We can.t have just any dirty minded colonial So-.n.-So (absolutely no offence intended to anyone) thinking they can have it away with just any male member (of a European Royal Family), can we . well can we? (Fuck! It might just be good for them!)

Anyway, as Jerry might say but thankfully never quite did, .Don.t you let your Deal go down., Bob, unless you really want to . and certainly not on a royal . ever . unless paid for in advance.

Take care, .. and the sheep,
Outraged of Scotland (or hoping to be)
BobMac
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From: Bob Deal bdeal@kc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

I loved your dissertation......BobMac, it reminds me of a lovely friend of mine (an English character actor) who was prominent in our gay motorcycle clubs. when someone was talking about the opinion of the Queen on something or other. The one fellow said "fuck the Queen" The indignant other man answered "fuck her???? you can't even approach her!.....of course this sounds much better with a British accent....

hugs
Bob
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From: "George of Boston" bostbill@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Dear Bob,
This "colonial" wonders why a Scot doesn't understand the geography better of the land just east and southeast of Scotland across the North Sea. In the above message, you called a prince of The Netherlands a Belgian prince. The only explanation I can think of is that you are more than 150 years old, not the young chap you pretend to be, and you are remembering the time when part of the country now called Belgium was an integral part of South Holland. The remainder of what is now Belgium was then a part of France.

If you can't distinguish between a Dutchman and a Belgian, how do you expect North Americans to distinguish between Englishmen and Scotsmen? By looking at their crotch?

If that Dutch (not Belgian) prince gets his hands on you, your ass will be grass, as we brash colonials are fond of saying.

All tongue in cheek. I'm not wanting to start another war with the United Kingdom. You guys would just get licked all over by the colonials again.
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From: "Bob Mac" bobmac2001@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Dear George,
I stand, sit and, indeed, writhe about corrected.

As for being licked all over by colonials ... my colonials are moist and tingling at the very thought. I will make very sure this much maligned Dutchman of the royal persuasion does not get hold of me - he's not my type. If, however, you are ever in the neighbourhood ...

Best wishes,
a chastened BobM
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From: thomasykhui@netscape.net (Thomas H)
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince's Socks

So, how does one look at someone's crotch and can distinguish where his "origin" is?
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From: George of Boston bostbill@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Here are two indications:

1.) The Scotsman's crotch may be covered by a kilt. The Englishman's won't be.

2.) The Scotsman can get it up while it is flapping in the cold breeze on a highland mountain top. It's a rare Englishman who can do that.
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From: "Bob Mac" bobmac2001@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Well, of course you can. For example Scotsmen always wear a tartan tie round their tackle to distinguish them from the English in red, white and blue. Mind you the blue is just because they tie it too tight - or perhaps the weather.
BobMac
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From: "Oscar vdW" ovdw24@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Dutch Prince

Not every Dutch Prince is straight.

Please see my Profile in The Netherlands.

Greetings from Prince Oscar ;-)

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From: TS kozzymoto@yahoo.com
Subject: Minnesota humor

One day, a man walked into the produce section of his local supermarket and asked to buy half a head of lettuce.

The boy working in that department told him that they only sold whole heads of lettuce.

The man was insistent that the boy ask his manager about the matter.

Walking into the back room, the boy said to his manager, "Some jerk out there wants to buy only half a head of lettuce."

As he finished his sentence, he turned to find the man standing right behind him, so he added, "and this gentleman wants to buy the other half."

The manager approved the deal and the man went on his way.

Later the manager found the boy and said "I was impressed with the way you got yourself out of that situation earlier. We like people who think on their feet here. Where are you from, son?"

"Minnesota, sir," the boy replied.

"Well, why did you leave Minnesota," the manager asked.

The boy said, "Sir, there's nothing but whores and hockey players up there."

"Really!" said the manager. "My wife is from Minnesota!"

The boy replied, "No kidding? What team did she play for?"
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From: "Dennis O" irishbear@hotmail.com
Subject: Humor: Dating

Happy Belated Valentines Day To The List, and now for a joke that I want to share...

Dennis

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DATING: :-)

After many years, a Jewish mother gets the phone call she never thought she would get from her openly gay son.

"Mom, I've met a wonderful girl. I'm going straight, and we're going to get married."

Mom is overjoyed, but can't really believe things are that good. "I suppose it's too much to ask that she's Jewish."

Her son says, "Mom, not only is she Jewish, but she happens to be from a very wealthy and prominent Beverly Hills family."

Mom is beside herself with joy, and says, "You don't know how happy you've made me. What's her name?"

The son says, "Monica Lewinsky."

Mom is silent for a moment, and then says, "What happened to that nice Catholic boy you used to date?"
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