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-Re: Loneliness (9) I am responding to Dave's post, as it is very thought provoking. I think, with all due respect, that many of us say we want friends, but then all we want to do is look at pictures, and decide "this guy is hot: I'd love to sleep with him" without knowing the real person. For me, at my stage in life, friendship with, hopefully a sexual component, is what I strive for. Of course, my perspective may be different, but it does seem that too much concentration on the visual can lead to loneliness, and perhaps a bit of isolation. There are only so many times you can get off by looking at a picture.
Bob and Harley I am a fairly new club member and have enjoyed reading all of the postings over the last few months. However, my attention has not been sparked to respond to any particular article, until now. First of all, let me say that I agree with Bob and Harley that David's essay was very thought provoking. Bob and Harley state that,"too much visual can lead to loneliness and isolation." A point well made. It is a proven fact that men in general lean more to the visual side of things than the verbal and herein lies the problem, be it young or old. All of the pics become their "reality" and basis for "what I want in a partner or friend." Emphasis is placed on the "physical" totally neglecting the personality and as the "lonely" person's encounters with a "real individual" more and more do not meet their expectations they retreat to the pic, their "fantasy." After all, it takes work and communication to get to know someone, a skill not high on the list for most men. Why bother with getting to know someone and face rejection when you can sit in front of a screen and just jerk off, same result no lip. The crux of the problem to "loneliness" is fear, of getting involved emotionally be it lover or friend. As for myself, give me a man over 60 with a keen sharp mind and who knows what follows.
Lonely people get out there and build friendships, for this is the
foundation of strong relationships. If you find someone you think is
"hot" be a friend first. If it doesn't work out sexually, then you could
have a friend for life. I know, it's worked for me..........
As ever, Bob has spoken great words of wisdom into Harley's ears. It is very easy for those of us that are "seeing" persons to cruise the visuals and make judgments based on those visualizations. In the end, these visual fruits and vegetables do not make a whole lot of difference. Love seems to, and friendship seems to. These seem to be things that last. Physical beauty fades. It happens to all of us. Those that are fortunate are able to gain a little wisdom along the way. Persons less fortunate continue to focus on physical beauty, and seem to end up very lonely and sad. Bless you all. I hope that each of you, myself included, are fortunate enough to have the good stuff. It's Inside, not out.
Terry in KC
Not in the Silverfoxes Syndrome, baby! As a man ages he only
gets more and more sexually appealing. Unlike most women,
whose beauty peaks in youth and who spend the rest of their
lives immersed in expensive creams to try and recapture what
they have lost, the natural man weathers time without a lot
of extra effort and finds himself approaching the pinnacle
of beauty and appeal when most females are plastered with
cosmetics to present an illusion of youth. Not a man. He may
not see himself that way, but beauty is, indeed, in the eye
of the beholder, and if the beholder is a foxhunter, the
older man's sexual success is assured. He will be loved as
never before in his life, and by another man who may be as
devoted to him as if he were a god. I see it and read about
it every day in the mail I receive from people on this very
list. No matter how the aging man sees himself, there is
ALWAYS another younger or older man who will find in him an
awesome beauty without the ephemeral illusion of youth and
based on the marble of character sculpted by wide experience
of life. Our Profiles are filled with older men who can and
do testify to the truth of my statements here. They are
frequently flooded with e-mails offering companionship or
love, and our Locker Room echoes to the ecstatic groans of
foxhunters waxing orgasmic over pictures of distinctly
UNFADED aging men!
Dear Ben, As I said before, when I buy silver, I look for that which has been around a bit, and have no interest in what is "new". I want character marks, signs of a life well experienced, years of beauty even before I came along., and it happens that this silver shines far more brightly and with greater polish, anything that might come along as a newly manufactured entity. One only needs to take a different look to find that which is "beautiful" in most things. Again, I believe that while we may choose different words to express ourselves, our principles are absolutely in unison.
Peace, Sir,
Interesting... Eventually, all of this waiting around really starts getting to you, you sit at home and let the world pass you by. I knew there were others out there and I knew that there was somebody out there that did want to talk and listen to me (it didn't help any that I was still living at home with my parents and I was extremely horny back then--still am, but that's another story..). I just thank god, my lucky stars, and the Prime Timers Organization that I finally did meet him. I am sure I'd be dead by now if I hadn't gotten "saved". All it took was 1 little response to an advertisement in one of the local bar rags. The advertisement was for the Prime Timers Chapter, for "mature men and their admirers". I fell into the "admirer" portion so I went ahead and sent them a 2 page letter introducing myself. Within a couple of days, I got a phone call inviting me to their monthly meeting. There I met a wonderful man (who was already taken by somebody else), but he "nurtured" me and reminded me that I was somebody. He told me about a good friend of his that he wanted to introduce me to, so I went ahead and took a chance. The person whom he introduced me to wound up being my partner for these past 8 years. I don't see us having any problems, so things are working out good. I am forever in debt to this friend of mine for (1) making me realize that there was somebody out there that wanted to be with me for something other than just plain old sex, and (2) being a wonderful mentor, and (3) being the best friend a person could possibly ask for. I guess that's why I love being around older men more than any other group of people. It's too bad that nowadays, most younger gay people rely on looks (if you're 10 pounds overweight, forget it!!) and how fat your wallet is before they look at you. It gets really aggravating at times when one reads through the "partner wanted" ads and sees all types of requirements that one must possess before you can "apply". People like that are shallow and I for one do not play their games..I think they should be taken out to the pasture and shot..all they do is make you older lonely guys feel worse! So all of you old, balding, heavy older guys that think that nobody in the whole world loves you--THINK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! At least one (lone??) Silverfox hunter is out here looking for YOU! I haven't heard from any Silverfox Hunters out there so I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one who feels this way...
David
Yeah Daddy-I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!! God, what I would do to get me a nice old Silverfox right now and give him the biggest, wettest kiss and a nice big Bear hug to go with it...
David Thanx for you pictures and forwarding letters on loneliness. I'm happily married to the same woman of 31 years. However, I'm still very curious about what it would be like to be with another man (a good friend who knows and understands me). I have men friend, but they would not be at all interested in a sexual relationship. I have a question. In many of the letters and articles that have crossed my computer, the writers state that they swallow the semen ejaculated by another man. Does anyone out there eat their own semen when they masturbate? I'm curious. I've seen photos of men sucking their own penises (only those who are lean and well endowed) and ejaculating into their own mouths.
Thanx! Very eloquently spoken, Ben. In my own case, I don't see a dashing man when I look in my mirror, but happily my 35 year old handsome foxhunter bagged me at age 60. I have never known such happiness and can only wish the same for others.
Have a great day! Two aliens landed in the Arizona desert near an abandoned gas station. They approached one of the gas pumps, and one of the aliens addressed it. "Greetings, Earthling. We come in peace. Take us to your leader." The gas pumps of course, didn't respond. The alien repeated the greeting. Again there was no response. The alien, annoyed by what he perceived to be the gas pumps haughty attitude, drew his ray gun, and said impatiently, "Greetings earthling. We come in peace. How dare you ignore us in this way! Take us to your leader, or I'll fire!" The other alien shouted to his comrade, "No, you don't want to make him mad!" But before he finished his warning, the first alien fired. There was a huge explosion that blew both of them 200 meters into the desert, where they landed in a heap rather abruptly. When they finally regained consciousness, the one who fired turned to the other one and said, "What a ferocious creature. It damn near killed us! How did you know it was so dangerous?"
The other alien answered, "If there's one thing I've learned during my
travels through the galaxy, when a guy has a penis he can wrap around
himself twice and then stick it in his own ear, you don't mess with him."
Hello Men, Is it easier to make a new friend over the net than it is in person? My experience is YES, I let people into my life much easier over the net than I do in real life (maybe a bad word but you get my point) On the net, if someone sends me a pic, and they fit my comfort zone with men (over 50) I will talk with them before I would speak with someone without a pic .. I`m sure I have missed out on some nice guys .. But how can one expect a guy to open up to a person without a pic? I could`nt, Imagine getting to know a person without a pic, you write a couple times a week sharing all that life throws at you.. You feel a bond with that person.. You finally get to see pic of the man, and he is a physical turnoff .. Now you have to let the guy know that there are no hope of a real relationship .. And you look the shallow one ... I think the net is a great way to meet new people, but only if the playing field is a level one ..
Tommy
"I've traveled so far, and all I've done is come back home."
"The only devils in the world are in our own hearts, and
that
is where battles ought to be fought."
"There have always been tyrants and murderers, and in the
end, they always fall. Always!"
End of silverfoxesclub-digest V1 #130
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