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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Saturday, December 9 2000
Volume 01 : Number 070

In this issue:

-Maine Governor/Gay Rights Supporters Pose Question
-Worm Opening (3)
-Re: Parapsychology (4)
-Our wishes for your safety in the U.K. (3)
-Homosexuality among priests
-Almost disasters
-Fwd: Eating tips

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:33:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Edward

Subject: Maine Governor and Gay Rights Supporters Pose a Question

From today's NY Times.

Edward
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December 8, 2000

Maine Governor and Gay Rights Supporters Pose a Question
By CAREY GOLDBERG

AUGUSTA, Me., Dec. 7 - In the punishing chill of late afternoon, near sunset, more than 100 gay rights advocates and the popular governor of Maine gathered on the State House steps in frustration today, asking, as they put it, what was wrong with their state.

That is, why has Maine, alone among New England states, failed to pass a law barring discrimination against gay men and lesbians? It was the most public, though not the first, soul-searching by Gov. Angus King, an independent, since an antidiscrimination proposal on the state ballot was defeated last month by just 4,000 votes out of a half- million cast.

"I've wrestled with the question of, `What does this vote mean?' " Governor King, a vocal supporter of the failed proposal, told the red-nosed, numb-toed crowd. "Does it mean that 50.1 percent of the people of Maine don't like gay people? I don't believe it. That doesn't jibe with my experience with Maine people."

Rather, he said, he believed the problem was that advocates had failed to convince Maine residents that there was really a need for a law banning discrimination. One poll, he recalled, found that a majority of Maine people believed such a law was already on the books.

One used to be. But in 1998, in a one-issue referendum, Maine became the only state to repeal its law banning discrimination against gay people. At the time, supporters of gay rights attributed that outcome to the high turnout among Christian conservatives.

This election, however, brought high turnout all around, and polls had predicted a strong victory for the ban on discrimination.

What happened? Mr. King wrestled painfully with that question right after the election in an e-mail message to Jonathan Lee, executive director of the Maine Speak Out Project, a program that sends gay speakers around the state and organized today's meeting. Mr. King gave permission today to quote from the message.

He had slept perhaps as little as the presidential candidates that night, Mr. King wrote, wondering whether he could have done something to tip the balance in the proposal's favor. He believed the campaign failed, he wrote, because "we never reached the substantial percentage who want to do the right thing, but need to understand (or, better yet, feel) that there is a real-life problem that needs fixing."

In response to Mr. Lee's suggestion that if the governor had used his bully pulpit more the measure might have won, Mr. King responded: "I can't answer the question you raise, and it hurts; I am deeply sorry we didn't make it. I can only console myself with the certain knowledge that if I did let you down, it was due to a tactical misjudgment, not a lack of courage or commitment."

Mr. King had campaigned more loudly - and just as unsuccessfully - for gay rights in 1998; he was quieter this time, he wrote, out of fear of being "overused" again and generating a backlash, as he did in 1998.

Michael Heath, a leading opponent of the gay rights proposal, said in a telephone interview that part of the explanation for the outcome might be that Maine had a better organized network of Christian conservatives than most other New England states.

Mr. Heath's group, the Christian Civic League of Maine, and others emphasized the argument that "it's not about discrimination; it's about other things."

"And this time," Mr. Heath said, "we talked about the Boy Scouts and the civil unions in Vermont."

He said his group also argued that discreet gay men and lesbians were not victims of discrimination in Maine, except in isolated incidents.

Post-mortems aside, Mr. King pledged today to do what he could, as the chief of the state's largest employer, to establish rules throughout state government barring employees from tolerating any form of harassment.

And Maine Speak Out would continue its work, Mr. Lee said, including holding a big march this summer in which straight people are to walk next to their gay loved ones.
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 06:25:23 -0500 From: "Digital Artistry"

Subject: Worm Opening

Ben Boxer: Well, Bob, you ask about me having off-the-wall parapsychological experiences? Ha! Let us hope you do not regret having opened up MY can of worms on the subject. The answer, oh, yes, brother, oh, yes! Parapsychology is defined as the study of the evidence for psychological phenomena, such as telepathy, clairvoyance, and psychokinesis, that are inexplicable by science.

Ben, Bob, et. al;

I hope I don't wind up allowing myself to rant to the point where I re-type my entire dissertation, but let me try to offer my personal take on these kinds of experiences. First of all, it's generally believed that such things as ghosts, apparitions and the strange sounds, smells and sensations that accompany them are simply residual energy. Since we know that energy cannot be created or destroyed, simply transmuted, all energy is free to take on any form with the proper influence. In the case of psychic phenomenon... Well, lets use an example shall we? Many of us are familiar with the psychic John Edward, who has a television show on the Sci-Fi channel. He claims to be able to communicate with the spirits of departed loved ones and so forth. I suggest that he is (with all good intentions mind you) incorrect in his explanation of his unusual ability. I believe (and am able to give some evidence to this) that he simply is able to touch with the very alive energies of the persons whom he is "reading" for. Ask yourself this, has he ever offered up a piece of information that his subject did not already know, either consciously or subconsciously? The person might not understand the reference when he gives it, but later you almost always see them say "When John mentioned the name Sparky, I didn't know what he was talking about, then later it dawned on me, we had a dog named Sparky when I was a little girl"... He has yet to offer any information that didn't already exist in the mind of his subject. I would be more convinced if he were able to say to a subject "Your departed father wants me to tell you that he buried a box full of money in the basement" and later the person dug it up. But you see that isn't going to happen, Mr. Edward is simply reading the energies that exist in the vicinity. Some are stronger than others, which is why he is drawn to certain locations. Dependant on the subject and or the subject matter. This is my belief and since this is hardly something that can be outright proven, I could be wrong but I believe my take on it is more likely to be the case. Now in the cases of "visitations from beyond". When a concerted amount of energy is placed on a person, thing or location, it becomes a focal point for this energy. In your case, Ben, your visitation from your aunt was likely to have been a projection of energy from your mother. Those memories, whether they be on the surface or buried deep in our subconscious, can be quite intense. Some people are more receptive to these things than others. This is why some people see "ghosts" and others do not. "Ghosts", rarely are interactive. Most of the time when someone sees an apparition, it is reenacting some scene from life. This is what is called residual energy. It, more oft than not, is left behind in cases where a person has met their demise under violent or stressful circumstances. That's why when we hear of "The old haunted house up on the hill" normally there is a story about someone murdering someone or committing suicide to go along with it. A commonplace thing when we talk of haunted houses.

But then you probably wonder about situations where the apparition seems to be interactive. In your case, Ben, the situation with your boil, that's a bit harder to explain but it can be explained none the less. You were asleep at the time, correct? Energy isn't dependant on distance, especially when you carry your own everywhere you go. Obviously this sore was bothering you quite a bit and subconsciously you remembered the way in which your aunt would help you when you were younger. How it actually opened up isn't really a great surprise. I'd say about 75% of the time a boil will simply burst on its own if it's in a place where the skin is thin or taught, the nose is one of those places. The longer it remains, the larger it gets, the more likely it is to burst open. Most of the time it happens in your sleep too. When you're awake you're very conscious of the affected area and are less likely to bump it or scratch it, but asleep, especially when your subconscious is at work, in this case, recalling how your aunt would care for your wounds, well, two follows one and you more than likely popped the thing yourself without even knowing it. The dreamstate simply added the elements of the supernatural to the occurrence.

This is not to say that there's no such thing as spirits, ghosts, souls or an afterlife. Just that I believe our ability to contact it is very limited. Can we contact the "other side"? I believe we can, but not so haphazardly as some would like to think. It requires a serious effort and the concentration of energies to do so. I believe (for my own reasons) that certain times of the year are better for this kind of activity than others but I won't get into that, it'd take even more time and bore a lot of folks. So most of the occurrences in life that we attribute to the supernatural are simply natural phenomenon that we're simply not used to. You could call them occult phenomenon if you use the word literally (meaning "Hidden" as pertaining to knowledge). I feel though, that on the majority these things are far from supernatural, simply that modern science has yet to categorize these things because of the infrequency of their occurrence. I mean, most folks have a "ghost story" but very few have any documented proof of it.

I haven't yet read the stories you pointed out and I will do so next, I'm interested in seeing what else has happened to you. I was not aware of all the trials and tribulations of your life experiences. I know you're a fantastic writer but I didn't know how much you drew from actual life experience.

Regards,
- -Mike
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:13:36 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Fw: Worm Opening

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Digital Artistry"
To: "Ben Boxer" ;
"@FoxList"
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:25 AM

Subject: Worm Opening

(Comments deleted, but referenced in general below)
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Ben Boxer says:
I buy everything you said might be the case. It's as good an explanation as any. I read the works of Paul Brunton years ago, and his talk of "spirit bands" around the earth, etc., always struck me as Looney Tunes, but as likely to be right as any other explanation. I never worried about hallucinating myself off the ground. I just let my mind fly, and therein lies the answer I have long accepted for myself -- that I don't need an answer to keep me sane. I don't "believe" in ghosts, but I believe, with you, that on these occasions, I may have "seen" the contents of my own mind or of one under whose influence I have fallen in times of high emotion or stress, coupled with my hyperactive imagination (developed in an obsessively lonely childhood). I am also impressed by your thoughts on energy, which dovetail with mine. Where would the world be today without Einstein's understanding of energy as ultimate force, his dreams being proved even now as reality?

I have no defense for my experiences, except that we all dream, asleep or awake. Freud thought he could interpret dreams. Enter psychiatry. Buddha thought he could take on the cares of mankind and solve them. Enter Buddhism. Enter Jesus. Enter all religion. Enter the "divine" right of kings. Enter schizophrenia. Enter an Irish grandmother "born with the veil." Enter the Fox sisters with their seances. Enter Merlin the magician. Enter Edgar Casey. Enter all those who BELIEVE in the dreams, visions, fantasies of the foregoing and take it a step farther by fabricating myths and legends to support the belief system.

Each of us is his own kind of nutcake, and that's OK as long as we don't egomaniacally carry it too far -- like Hitler, or Attila the Hun, or the guy who shot John Lennon 20 years ago. I don't swear as gospel the extraordinary things that have happened to me, but I don't deny them or hide them, either. I relish them and enjoy them. I am not afraid of where my mind can take me or why as long as I don't zap anybody else, and I love to see the mind operating at full throttle in others. We live in an age of "spin." Ha! There isn't anything on today's political scene, for example, that can't be warped or rechanneled in the direction the Republicans or the Democrats want to take it. Ads on TV for tampons and soap, etc., thrive on fantasies about the most ordinary things. Joe Camel smokes a cigarette. Oral Roberts talks to God. Jerry Falwell SPEAKS for God!

Santa Claus LIVES! You see what I mean? A real can of worms!
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 02:49:49 -0500
From: "Digital Artistry"

Subject: Re: Worm Opening

Going Fishing here... Since we've got the worms.

Ben Boxer says: I buy everything you said might be the case. It's as good an explanation as any. I read the works of Paul Brunton years ago, and his talk of "spirit bands" around the earth, etc., always struck me as Looney Tunes

This sounds suspiciously like lay lines to me. These are quite possibly a reality, there is no hard evidence of course, but some believe that there are fields of energy that exist on the earth, some think of them in terms of lines (or bands if you will). They use this to explain such things as the Bermnuda Triangle among others. While this theory is not something we're likely to find any substantiation for, it's worthy of some thought. I believe that certain places do hold energy more strongly than others, for whatever various reasons there may be. Maybe these lay lines or "spirit bands" do exist, maybe they don't. I like to keep my mind open about these kinds of things. Even though it does make it harder to clean in there, what with all the cobwebs and all.

I have no defense for my experiences, except that we all dream, asleep or awake.

A defense for an open mind isn't necessary, at least not within the company of other free thinkers. It's when we encounter those who have made up their minds about so many things that we feel the need to defend what we have accepted as true, even if WE know that truth is relative, so many of "THEM(tm)(c)(r)" as totally certain that their "TRUTH" is the one and only. I won't get you started on the whole Christianity issue if you don't get me started.

Each of us is his own kind of nutcake, and that's OK as long as we don't egomaniacally carry it too far --

Ohhh, why not? Lets carry it. After all, if we don't, who will? I mean, what's too far? Is it too far to say that you actually DO believe in ghosts? Is it too far to believe in God? Or yes, even Santa Claus. Nah... So long as you keep that open mind.

You see what I mean? A real can of worms!

My aunt in Alabama actually has a worm farm, she sells them to fishermen all over the country. Often when you go out and buy your worms to go fishing at the local convenience store you may acually have opened a can of my aunt's prized nightcrawlers. :)
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 13:50:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Feinstein

Subject: Re: Para Psychology

Ben, your post really is chilling and incredible. But, could you explain: were you kidnapped and by who? How did it happen? Did you always remember your mother, even though you were so young? Police weren't able to find you? I will try to read the stories whose urls you gave me. Your aunt sounds like a very kind woman. What a shock to see her just as she was in a picture!

Bob and Harley
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:58:53 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Re: Parapsychology

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Feinstein"
Cc: "@FoxList"
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:50 AM

Subject: Re: Para Psychology

Ben...could you explain: were you kidnapped and by who? How did it happen? Did you always remember your mother...Police weren't able to find you?....etc. ==============

Robert, I must first apologize to all for having consumed so much bandwidth jabbering about myself in this thread, so after this response, I will call it quits on my part.

My parents were involved in a ghastly divorce from each other that led to double kidnappings across state and international lines and a show trial set up by my father's uncle who was a justice of his state's Supreme Court. I was placed on the stand at age 4 and browbeaten by a string of lawyers in a vain attempt to make me testify against my mother. It was all so unfair and so squirrelly that when my father's uncle discovered the truth years later, he begged my mother's forgiveness before he could die in peace, believing his actions had destroyed our lives, which they damn near did. It was all a family affair, in an age when children were not as protected legally as they are today. Thank you, Eleanor Roosevelt (who is largely responsible for the United Nations' attention to the international rights of the child)!

No, I did not remember my mother. I was so traumatized by the terrible events that I remembered nothing that happened in my life between birth and the age of seven. Then one glorious autumn day when I was 16, I woke up, you might say, while I was raking leaves, when suddenly it dawned on me like a blaze of light: "Good God, I must have had a mother! I wasn't brought by a stork!"

At that moment began the odyssey which took me back to her. And when I found her and read all the court documents and endless correspondence and investigative police reports covering my final disappearance and learned of the shameless duplicity of some members of my father's family whom I had trusted, slowly, irrevocably, my life before the age of seven opened up in my mind.

I could remember conversations of adults and even the furnishings of houses while I was still in a crib. It had all been stored in the back of my head, a vault whose opening was triggered by finding out what had really happened and why my childhood was stolen from me. Those recollections were fresh and new, undiluted by time, undissipated by use and re-use.

You used the word "incredible," Bob, in the sense of "astonishing," "marvelous," and I agree. I was astonished to discover that I had been an actual eyewitness in babyhood to situations which would lead to the dreadful uprooting of our lives, and what I remembered, more than the testimony of anyone else, exonerated my mother from all blame in my mind for the damage done.

A side effect was that I became a student of nuances, of the shadings of words in conversation, of motives and hidden meanings revealed in seemingly unimportant gestures and body language. A second was that I recognized the need to discharge abusive people from my environment at the first opportunity, or to otherwise neutralize them. This has stood me in good stead. I do not suffer assholes lightly or overlong.

Let us turn now to you. You are not sighted. You cannot see with the outer eyes. You cannot judge from the way a person shifts his eyes or shrugs or moves uncomfortably in a chair.

How do you do it? What clues do people offer you? How do you navigate mentally on the social plane? Your postings reveal you to be a man of education and a certain style which do not suggest to those who are not told that are a man without sight.

Clearly, though, you are a man of vision. How are those inner eyes supplemented by the energy flowing through the world around you?
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:08:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Feinstein

Subject: Re: Parapsychology, and a bit about me

In answering your question, Ben, I must admit, sadly, that I am much more isolated than you would think. I have not had many of the experiences of other people, and I sometimes tend to be naive in trusting people. However, what has stood me in good stead are two things: 1) because of the nature of blindness, many people don't want to be bothered with me, and those that do are either exceptionally kind, or somewhat unbalanced, and the latter can be picked out by their questions. For example, if someone only wants to know about blindness, and never gets beyond it, I know that we cannot have a friendship. If someone is guiding me, and I ask them to hold their arm in a more comfortable way, and they resist, I know that a close friendship will never happen. If I detect impatience at the help I need (and this happens more than I'd like to believe) I usually back off. What has intrigued me, somewhat saddened me, and also confused me, is that in the chubby/chaser movement, many will help those who are unable to manage because of extreme weight. I know a couple in which one member has to help the other to tidy up after a bowel movement because he cannot reach due to his weight. Yet, the help that I need as a blind person, is not seen in the same way, and I think the reason is that there is no movement where people are attracted to blind guys. In other words, the help given freely to a chubby guy is based on the whole aspect of sexual attraction, and since this does not exist for the blind guy, the help is without any motivation, and must be given freely, but without perhaps a reward, until you get to know the blind person better. I have also noticed that for some people, the fact of my blindness makes them so uncomfortable, that they cannot concentrate on anything else.

It is so hard to know why certain people are at ease with blind people and others aren't. It's something I can pick up right away, after a few words, and often, people who have never met a blind person, are more comfortable than those who have had one experience, and have very preconceived ideas.

I read a lot, and try to learn from lists like this one. If a person is kind, I ask lots of questions, even if I know that by doing so, I will expose things I don't know that sighted people do. And, I have received some very nice posts, and am going to try to cultivate some meaningful friendships from the list. Because of my situation, sexual attraction probably has to come second.

I hope others find my posts interesting, and I also do not want to monopolize things, so will let others talk and go back to reading!

I loved Michael's explanation of the parapsychic! Is that the right word?

Hugs,
bob and Harley

P.s. Harley is a wonderful ice breaker and helps me a lot, as he is so darling and outgoing a dog! I probably could not have a close friendship with someone who really didn't like animals, especially Harley.
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 03:21:27 -0500
From: "Digital Artistry"

Subject: Re: Parapsychology, and a bit about me

Hello Bob,

In response to your comments relating your disability to the chub-chaser concept I'd like to comment if I might. You're right, this has everything to do with sexual attraction. But when it comes to people who are SO narrow minded that this is what they look for to the exclusion of all else, I say you're better off without them anyway. Too often you'll find a personal ad on the internet where a guy will go into such great detail about what he wants in a partner, physically and emotionally as well as maybe even financially it makes you wonder "Is this guy serious? Does he really expect someone to respond to this?" Regrettably, those kinds of people often do get responses. I believe that what's important isn't the sex, it's the relationship, the close bond you develop with another human being. My partner and I rarely ever even discuss sex, it's not the major part of why we are together, we're together because we love each other and care deeply for each other. When he first saw my ad on the Apollo network and on Ben's web site, he was initially attracted because he actually IS a chub chaser, but it wasn't the most important factor, in fact, we set out to start a life together based on letters and telephone calls, by the time he was ready to drive up here from his home in Fort Myers Florida, I was already looking for a house. When he arrived, we got an apartment within the week, a month and a half later we flew down to Florida and packed up the remainder of the things he wanted to ship here to Philly and we settled on our new house two months later and have been here since September if '98. Sex and labels like chub, silverfox or bear had nothing to do with it. We clicked so well together and enjoyed each other's company, we have never had what you'd call an argument, we rarely have a raised voice in the house, our families are very happy for us and visit often. We've got, basically an Ozzy & Harriet thing going on here. Were he or I to have a problem, it wouldn't change anything. I had my share of handicaps when we met and they've had almost no effect on things. I can't imagine what it would be like for either of us to be blind but I know it would not affect the love we have in any way. That's what people need, not a "daddy" or "son" or "bear" or "chub", they need a partner who loves them unconditionally. I think in your case you need to rise above all of these labels and look inside the person (Which you don't need to be sighted to do) and find out what they're like where it counts. You might find that a person who may take a long time getting used to your blindness may turn out to be the perfect partner for you, it'd require patience on your part as well. I don't think you should too quickly dismiss a person because they might initially be uncomfortable with your disability. Usually that attitude comes from them being so self conscious about saying or doing something to hurt your feelings that they mess up left and right. That's really not a bad thing, their heart's in the right place and they need time to become comfortable with you just as you'd need time to be comfortable with someone who maybe is a quadriplegic or is deaf or whatever else.

As to why some people are more comfortable than others with a person who has a certain disability. Well people are people, everyone is different and handles things in a different way. One guy might have no problem with it and be very much at ease around you but then later you'd discover that he has some terrible personality flaws while another guy might be highly uncomfortable at first, for the reasons I mentioned above and later you'll discover that he's the best friend you could ever have asked for.

When it comes to sexual attraction coming later, that's really how it should be. That is to say, while you might have an immediate sexual attraction to a certain person, the relationship should be based on much more important things which you learn about each other first. So don't sweat it if you feel that sexual attraction isn't going to be there right off the bat, that's healthy and the right way to approach things I feel.

By the way, how can you monopolize a list? Everyone's able to post and read at their leisure, there's no set amount of posts that the list can transmit in a day, so please do continue to post frequently. If anyone complains, tell them to see me, I'm too big to mess with, I'll just sit on 'em. (Even Ben Boxer is tiny to me).

Quoting Bob Here "I loved Michael's explanation of the parapsychic! Is that the right word?"

I respond: Thanks, I'm glad you liked what I had to say. I think the word that applys is parapsychological. Don't know if your text to speech will spell that out for you but it doesn't really matter, we know what we're discussing so, no big deal, right?

Hugs,
Mike

P.S. Harley is cute, I've seen his picture on the web... We have a 2 year old Dalmation named Smoke. We should get them together and see if they'd like to be friends. Smoke's a bit rambunctious sometimes but usually he just likes to lay on the sofa between Roy and I and watch television or pester us at dinner time for table scraps (And who am I kidding, he doesn't get table scraps, he gets his own plate of human food just like any other member of the family). What kind of dog is Harley? By the way, that's one of the coolest names for a dog, I tried to talk my niece into naming her Canary dog Harley but for some reason she named the poor thing Leon. Now that's just not right.
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 13:25:12 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Our wishes for your safety in the U.K.

We are all concerned for your safety if you are living in southwest England or Wales and thus subject to the torrential rains and flooding which have already claimed two lives. Please take care. Perhaps you are offline because of the weather, but when you come back online, we want you to know you have been in our thoughts.
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:53:45 -0000
From: "Pewit"

Subject: Re: Our wishes for your safety in the U.K.

I am fortunate to live on a hill in London but for some parts of the UK this is the third or fourth time that they have been flooded out.

The interesting discussion is the cause of all this damage, is it: - - The effect of global warming - - The complacency from not having severe storms for many years

My money is on the latter since statistically the weather pattern we are experiencing now is not outside the norm - extreme but not unknown. The lack of severe weather means that we build in what were flood plains of rivers - and then wonder why the water floods the area. In fact the government had recently designated one of the badly flooded areas for housing development, such is the pressure for homes in the South East of England.

The other thing that occurs to me is that if these poor people were under-insured before (and may were) it means they are going to be un-insurable in the future.

Pewit

Editor of The Gray Gay Guide
The online guide to places for mature gay men and their admirers worldwide http://travel.to/graygayguide.html

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:13:25 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"
Subject: Re: Our wishes for your safety in the U.K.

There's good news tonight!

Well, gents, my words have not returned unto me void! I just heard from a subscriber on the south coast of England who tells me that although the weather's mighty dreadful, "the emergency services are pumping away and let's hope we are all safe in the morning."

There's no one like an Englishman for keeping a stiff upper lip, not to mention a certain stiffness above the bollocks!
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:40:44 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Homosexuality among priests

Headline:
Book examines homosexuality among priests
(The Advocate, 12/08/00)

Text:
A papal biographer has broken a taboo, exploring homosexuality in the ranks of Italys Roman Catholic clergy. Marco Politis newly published book, La Confessione (The Confession), presents the testimony of a priest struggling to balance his homosexuality with his commitment to a church that considers homosexual acts a sin. The priest, who is never identified, discloses that a network of gay priests is active in the Italian church. It is described as an informal self-help group that exists in the catacombs of the church. There are always those who fear being discovered by superiors and listed as partners in a homosexual corporation. Its incredible how the fear is so widespread, the priest says through the author in the nonfiction account, written in the first person. The books publication follows an intense public discussion of homosexuality in Italy, generated by gay pride festivities in July in Rome that were denounced by the pope. Some public figures began to talk about their homosexuality, something previously unheard of in Italy. Politi, who covers the Vatican for the Rome newspaper La Repubblica, was coauthor, with American journalist Carl Bernstein, of His Holiness, a biography of Pope John Paul II. He said he had difficulty finding a publisher for his new book because there was a certain amount of fear to overcome in the Vaticans backyard. The gamble paid off, he said. The first edition of 5,000 copies, published by Rome-based Riuniti, sold out in three weeks and even won some praise in the newspaper published by the Italian Bishops Conference.
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:40:52 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Almost disasters

These floods in England and Wales have brought back a couple of personal memories.

One occurred in the Aberdare Range of Kenya, East Africa. I had pitched camp after dark without being able to see well enough to select a proper site. Every night before I slept, beside my head I placed a music box which had been given me by a friend in Cape Town several months before. It played my favorite hymn, which lent a sense of comfort out there alone in the wilds. I remember winding the key and setting the box in its usual place, but apparently fell asleep before playing it. At some point in the night, I must have shifted my position and knocked it over. The box popped open, its tune tinkling in my ear. In a panic, I woke from deep sleep, sprang to my feet, snatched up my sleeping bag and retreated to my motor scooter (The Road Angel) parked higher up, at the top of a rise. I stood there wide-eyed for a minute or two before a roar pounded in my ears -- not elephants stampeding, nor lions on the hunt, the usual African things, but ground-shaking thunder that struck fear into my soul. A 20-foot wall of water crashed past me, its spray drenching me to the skin. Had I not scrambled up from the dry creek bed a moment before, the flash flood from the summit of the mountain would have swept me away. After a sleepless hour or two, morning's light found me on the road, chastened, humbled by nature's power, but singing in full voice the music box hymn: "Shepherd, show me how to go O'er the hillside steep....." Under the circumstances, the lyrics seemed more than appropriate.

On a less spiritual note and on the other side of the world, the second incident occurred while I was spending some time at my favorite place in Hawaii -- Hanalei Bay on the island of Kauai.

(Actually, I wrote a story about the sex part of that visit, called "Kauai Bobby," which is in the Library at the Silverfoxes Clubhouse. There is also an audio version of "Kauai Bobby" at the Snooker Club, where I have several hours of such recordings. There are a few at the Clubhouse, too, and especially for this posting, I have moved "Kauai Bobby" to the Clubhouse as well, for those who are not members of the Snooker Club. You can listen to it here. The second half of this posting is about an event which transpired the day after Bobby and I had our first sexual adventure, but this time our adventure was definitely life-and-death!)

Bobby came back the following morning (after what took place in "Kauai Bobby") to invite me for a walk on the beach at Hanalei. This required our swimming across a narrow river mouth emptying into beautiful Hanalei Bay. I have loved the place ever since I first saw it in WW II movies and "South Pacific" as it was a favorite among filmmakers to suggest the perfect tropical isle. The Na Pali Cliffs rose majestically at its far end. Edging its crescent of white sand, groves of royal palms swayed in the ocean breeze. The beach was deserted. Once or twice, Bobbie sweetly took my hand as we strolled along. After an hour or so, we turned and retraced our steps on our way back to the hotel. Being fair-skinned, I am not a sun baby and must dress protectively against the effects of the sun in long, loose pants, brimmed straw hat, a long-sleeved jacket or shirt, and sandals that cover my insteps. Sunburn is not a joke to me. Besides all that gear, I must wear sun-resistant cream on my face and hands. That day, I was wearing a lightweight nylon windbreaker instead of a shirt, pulled tight with a string below the waist. Bobby and I were so deep in conversation we scarcely noticed that we were no longer walking on dry sand as we followed the curve of the beach, but were in water to our ankles, then to our calves, then to our knees. At that point, I realized the tide was coming in, rushing out and returning again and again. Within seconds we were splashing through water to our thighs and then to our waists. The beach suddenly seemed far away. I felt the tug of each receding wave, but the incoming swept past and began its return before I could follow it to land. My jacket, tied at my waist, began to fill up with water like a balloon, dragging me down. As my head slipped below water, I saw Bobby struggling to give me his hand. I reached out, but no dice. I was beyond his reach. When I popped up for air, my instincts made me swim hard for the shore, but Bobby remained too far from my grasp. In an instant of inspiration, I managed to twist and snatch a sandal from one foot. It became an extension of my arm. Bobby's face lit up. He got his finger in the strap and pulled hard until our toes touched bottom again with our heads above water. I could see panic in his eyes, as I am sure he saw in mine, but our determination to survive overrode our fear. Finally, after what seemed a long struggle, we emerged on the sand and fell in a heap. Our breath came in gasps, but I heard him say, "I thought I was gonna lose you, man." He clutched my hand and kissed it. Back at the hotel, we made passionate love in more traditional ways than the night before, and then he left. I would never see him again, but it could be that he saved my life for these later days. I mentioned the experience of falling victim to the undercurrent to the hotel manager that night. He was appalled. He told me that Hanalei Bay had claimed many victims that way. It was said there were underwater caverns where the bodies got lodged, never to be seen again.
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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 05:46:04 -0700
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Subject: [Fwd: Eating tips]

I hate this time of year.

Not for its crass commercialism and forced frivolity, but because it's the season when the food police come out with their wagging fingers and annual tips on how to get through the holidays without gaining 10 pounds.

You can't pick up a magazine without finding a list of holiday eating do's and don'ts. Eliminate second helpings, high-calorie sauces and cookies made with butter, they say. Fill up on vegetable sticks, they say.

Good grief. Is your favorite childhood memory of Christmas a carrot stick? I didn't think so. Isn't mine, either. A carrot was something you left for Rudolph. I have my own list of tips for holiday eating. I assure you, if you follow them, you'll be fat and happy. So what if you don't make it to New Year's? Your pants won't fit anymore, anyway.

1. About those carrot sticks. Avoid them. Anyone who puts carrots on a holiday buffet table knows nothing of the Christmas spirit. In fact, if you see carrots, leave immediately. Go next door, where they're serving rum balls.

2. Drink as much eggnog as you can. And quickly. Like fine single-malt scotch, it's rare. In fact, it's even rarer than single-malt scotch. You can't find it any other time of year but now. So drink up! Who cares that it has 10,000 calories in every sip? It's not as if you're going to turn into an eggnogaholic or something. It's a treat. Enjoy it. Have one for me. Have two. It's later than you think. It's Christmas!

3. If something comes with gravy, use it. That's the whole point of gravy. Gravy does not stand alone. Pour it on. Make a volcano out of your mashed potatoes. Fill it with gravy. Eat the volcano. Repeat.

4. As for mashed potatoes, always ask if they're made with skim milk or whole milk. If it's skim, pass. Why bother? It's like buying a sports car with an automatic transmission.

5. Do not have a snack before going to a party in an effort to control your eating. The whole point of going to a Christmas party is to eat other people's food for free. Lots of it. Hello? Remember college?

6. Under no circumstances should you exercise between now and New Year's. You can do that in January when you have nothing else to do. This is the time for long naps, which you'll need after circling the buffet table while carrying a 10-pound plate of food and that vat of eggnog.

7. If you come across something really good at a buffet table, like frosted Christmas cookies in the shape and size of Santa, position yourself near them and don't budge. Have as many as you can before becoming the center of attention. They're like a beautiful pair of shoes. You can't leave them behind. You're not going to see them again.

8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each. Or, if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? Labor Day?

9. Did someone mention fruitcake? Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it at all cost. I mean, have some standards, mate.

10. And one final tip: If you don't feel terrible when you leave the party or get up from the table, you haven't been paying attention Reread tips. Start over. But hurry! Cookieless January is just around the corner.

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