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Silverfoxesclub-digest
Sunday, December 3 2000
Volume 01 : Number 064

In this issue:

-Schools Chief Bars Events By Scouts, Citing Bias
-The four stages of life (+ response)
-"Queer As Folk" debuts tonight on Showtime (+ response)
-Namibian jails refuse to distribute condoms (+ responses)
-Portent of the future

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:06:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Edward

Subject: Schools Chief Bars Events By Scouts, Citing Bias

From today's NY Times.
December 2, 2000

Schools Chief Bars Events By Scouts, Citing Bias

By ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS

Schools Chancellor Harold O. Levy yesterday barred New York City public schools from sponsoring most activities of the Boy Scouts of America, saying that the Scouts had violated Board of Education policy by discriminating against gays.

Mr. Levy's policy bars the Scouts from bidding on contracts with city schools, and it prevents schools from sponsoring Scout troops or allowing the Scouts to recruit members during school hours.

The practical effect of Mr. Levy's decision was unclear yesterday, because the Board of Education will still allow the Scouts to use school space after hours. There are 7,000 Boy Scout troops and Cub Scout packs now meeting in New York City school buildings - representing roughly 140,000 boys - according to a New York spokesman for the Scouts. The spokesman did not know yesterday how many of those groups were sponsored by schools rather than by other community organizations.

But the chancellor's decision is a symbolic blow to the Boy Scouts, aligning the nation's largest school system, with more than one million students, against the group. The Scouts have already had to contend with similar sanctions by other school systems and municipalities. Many, though not all, of the organizations have acted since a United States Supreme Court decision in June upheld the right of the Boy Scouts to exclude gays.

"The board has a policy against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, and my job is to enforce the board's policy," Mr. Levy said in a telephone interview, adding that, as a former Boy Scout, he was acting regretfully, with hopes that the Scouts will change their policy so that city schools can embrace them again.

Patrick Stuhlman, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts in New York, said last night that scouting officials had not seen Mr. Levy's decision, which was announced at 6:30 p.m. yesterday, and could not comment on it.

But Mr. Levy released a letter addressed to him, also dated yesterday, from Daniel R. Gasparo, chief executive of the Boy Scouts of America Greater New York Councils, asking the chancellor to reconsider. In his letter, Mr. Gasparo insisted that the Scouts' New York operations did not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.

"Most people who have taken time to hear about the true nature of our programs, outside the hype of the media, find that we do not discriminate and that we provide vital services for the city's young people," Mr. Gasparo wrote. "My concern is that a citywide policy would not serve the interests of many of your children and their families."

Mr. Gasparo suggested that he had been working to change the national organization's policy toward gays, but he offered no specifics. "In the five months since the Supreme Court ruling, we have made some progress with our national office in broadening their views," he wrote. "This is a continually evolving issue, both in the Boy Scouts and in society."

Mr. Levy's decision was hailed as a precedent by gay rights groups.

"Chancellor Levy has taken a life- saving position by saying that New York City schools will not be accomplices to discrimination," said M. K. Cullen, director of public policy for the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, a nonprofit group based in New York City that lobbies against discrimination in schools.

Ms. Cullen said that public schools across the country were among the top three sponsors of Boy Scout troops, and that one in nine public schools in America sponsored a troop. "This is a turning point," she said.

Mr. Levy said that the Learning for Life program, intended to teach public school students practical skills like balancing a checkbook and the importance of good health, was not affected by his ruling. This program is donated by the Greater New York Councils to about 200 schools and is not discriminatory, he said.

The Boy Scouts now have an $800,000 contract with the school system to provide winter and summer camping services, Mr. Levy said. He said he would allow that contract to continue until it expires on April 30, 2002. But the Scouts will not be able to rebid the contract, he said, unless they change their policy on gays.

"I tried to make a decent judgment here," Mr. Levy said.

William C. Thompson Jr., president of the Board of Education, issued a statement of support for the chancellor's ruling, saying, "This is the right thing to do."

The citywide decision comes on the heels of similar resolutions withdrawing support for the Scouts by 3 of the city's 32 community school districts. Those resolutions - in District 3, on the Upper West Side of Manhattan; District 15, in Park Slope, Brooklyn; and District 2, from the Upper East Side to TriBeCa - had put pressure on Mr. Levy to formulate a policy throughout the city schools.

Board of Education officials said that while Mr. Levy was sympathetic to the New York Councils' insistence that the Boy Scouts in New York City do not discriminate against gays, he could not ignore that they are officially part of the larger national organization. "I note that the Boy Scouts of America has declared that an avowed homosexual is not a role model for the values espoused in Scout Oath and Law," Mr. Levy said in a letter to Mr. Gasparo, dated yesterday, explaining the new policy.

Mr. Stuhlman said that the New York group left it to sponsoring organizations to determine who should be a scout leader and that sexual orientation was not a criterion. Children are also not prohibited from joining the New York Scouts on the basis of sexual orientation, he said. But he added that "using these programs as a personal platform for discussions with children on sexuality or sexual activities is inappropriate."

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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:07:54 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: The four stages of life

1) You believe in Santa Claus.
2) You don't believe in Santa Claus.
3) You are Santa Claus.
4) You look like Santa Claus.
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:31:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Edward

Subject: RE: The four stages of life

I want Santa Claus. I want Santa Claus. hehe

Edward
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:07:49 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: "Queer As Folk" debuts tonight on Showtime

For those interested, the most graphic gay TV series to date, "Queer As Folk," debuts tonight (Sunday, December 3, 2000) in a 90-minute episode ONLY on Showtime, its producer, at 10:00 p.m. California time. Check your local listings for time in your area.
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 04:41:01 -0500
From: George of Boston

Subject: Re: "Queer As Folk"

Is there any one out there who is willing to tape this "Queer As Folk" series for me? I will pay in advance for the tapes and shipping and maybe be very nice to you in other ways that should not be mentioned in a family newspaper.
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:07:25 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Namibian jails refuse to distribute condoms

Ben Boxer comments:
Africa has the highest rate of AIDS and HIV-related illness on the planet. The figures for those already dead or dying, plus for those infected with the HIV virus, are almost beyond comprehension. Yet, as the article below reveals, the hatred for male homosexuality in Namibian society is so entrenched that prison officials are willing to defy the government's order to help in the fight against AIDS in the simplest, most practical way.

I realize that most of you don't give a shit what happens in Namibia and probably don't even know where it is. It is on the western edge of southern Africa, bordered on three sides by South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia and Angola, and on its entire western coast by the South Atlantic Ocean. That didn't help much, did it? Suffice it to say that it's a strip of land way down there near the bottom of the globe.

It has always been home to a wide variety of animal life both in the wild and now mostly in game reserves. When Elizabeth Taylor was married to Richard Burton, they owned a lodge at a game reserve in Namibia.

Namibia was a German colony in the 19th century, and many Germans have traditionally settled there. The wife of one of my best friends (he was a bisexual with whom I had an affair) in Argentina was a "German" girl born and raised in Namibia when it was still called South-West Africa. I later visited her family there and fell in love with the country.

At least one member of the Silverfoxes Club E-list was also born and grew up in Namibia, although he now lives in South Africa -- for another few days, that is, because this adventurous foxhunter, despite being confined to a wheelchair, will set out this week for a country halfway around the world where a wonderful silverfox whom he met through e-mail will welcome him to a Spanish-speaking country for the Christmas holidays and beyond, with the possibility that they may even become lovers. I wish them well.

Hey, guys, do you get my point?

These place names that are meaningless to you are home to people just like you, given standard variations of culture and race. They live, they breathe, they suffer, they love, they die. You may know some of them without realizing that you do, and if you train yourself to think in those terms, the fact that assholes who hate people like you and me are ready to let us all go to hell to satisfy their skewered religious beliefs or so-called moral principles will crisp your ass as it does mine.

The good news, not mentioned below, is that gays and lesbians are getting organized in Namibia and fighting back. You may not think so, but they are fighting for US, for YOU, for ME, and for those poor guys down there stuck behind bars with no comfort but each other. Imagine yourself in a Namibian prisoner's shoes for only 30 seconds and then tell me you don't care.

AIDS kills mostly straights in Africa, millions of them children. I read a survey yesterday that claimed 19 percent of Americans believe if you have AIDS, you deserve it. The percentage is probably higher than that, given the frightening ignorance permeating our society today. But then, most of them also believe that Pat Robertson is a man of God and that Fred Phelps is right when he says God hates fags and that Jerry Falwell walks on water -- speaking of which, I watched a TV documentary recently about how cold-blooded creatures survive. One of the subjects was a little guy a few inches high who has air pockets in his tiny feet that enable him to run across the surface of a pond without getting wet. He's called the Jesus Christ lizard. I kid you not!

Headline:
Namibian jails refuse to distribute condoms despite high HIV infection rates

(The Advocate, 12/02/00)

Text:
Prison officials in Namibia are going against the nations health ministers demands, prompted by a 23% HIV infection rate in the countrys jails, that they distribute condoms to prisoners. Junior prisons minister Jeremiah Nambinga told parliament Thursday that he considers sodomy a crime, and he demanded to know why health minister Libertine Amathila wants condoms distributed among inmates, as women and men are already separated. We also keep close guard on the inmates when they go and work outside to prevent them from sexual contact with outsiders, Nambinga said. So if a prisoner falls in love, there is no chance for him to mate with another.
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From: "douglas wilkens"
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: Namibian jails refuse to distribute condoms

Hi Ben,
I am very impressed with you, that you actually mentioned the Namibian situation etc. I will not be to shocked if alot of people (in the first world countries like America, England etc do not give a shit about Namibia but they must remember that the African people in Africa blame the First World countries for Aids. (I know this is true as I stay in Africa I am a Caucasian). It is against their religion to be Gay! I must also would like to mention that poverty has really played a huge part in the transmission of Aids. Condoms are plentiful here which is free etc. I hope that all of America realises that Aids in Africa is beyond control. I hope that all the Gay persons in America and any first world countries start realising what is happening here in Africa will, I repeat will affect them for sure. Dear Ben Thanks for your article and for yor concern. I hope that more persons like yourself are around to care -

God bless
Doug
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:08:43 -0800
From: "Ben Boxer"

Subject: Portent of the future

The US Senate will be evenly split for the first time in 120 years, after a recount in the last undecided election gave the Democrats a narrow victory in Washington state.

It means that whoever wins the US presidency will be searching for the middle ground in key areas, as few analysts believe that the administration will have a mandate - or the legislative numbers - for sweeping change.

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